I created this page as a post February 1 2018. I transformed it to a page Apr 14, 2019. Now in 2020 it is time for a update.
The abuse of the word “Quantum”
I do not make any money with my site. I have no ads and do not want it. Reading this page you will I hope understand my choice of the word wuantum.
I studied biology and basic math, chemistry and termodynamics many years ago.
It started reading my grandfathers book and trying to answer his two questions. “(Did God create the Universe out of nothing?” and “Did Adam and Eve have ancestors?) I ended up being interested in quantum field physics that seems to be behind Big Bang and all that happened thereafter, nucleosynthesis, the abiogenesis, biological evolution and finally our cultural evolution.
I found very early that quantum physics is behind everything. So I wanted to learn more about the math that describes quantum physics.These are two pages I am still working with:
The little I have learned (now about the string theory) has however given me some ideas to what a Creator God could be. My answer to my grandfathers questions and my hypothesis is readable in my “illuministic Genesis“: But I have of course still a long way to walk and more updates will be done in my Genesis.
Why do I call God a “Quantum God”?
This is a conclusion, I came to after a long search. I told above how this search started.
2017 September 8, I already thought about Quantum physics. I wrote about it in hwww.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/science-without-religion/
If God exists and created all things then God must have created the Quantum field theory and its supported laws that governs Big Bang and all that happened thereafter, the Universe and evolution on earth. Looking at these laws and some Quantum physics mysteries, I became convinced that a Creator must be much more than a magician and clay artisan as the Bible Genesis and the Quran describes it.
So I wrote my illuministic Genesis inspired with all things I have learned so far.
I were driven in my search also by these words of Jesus:
“I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now.” ( John 16:12 )
These words raised two questions in me:
- What were those many things he had to say?
- Why couldn’t his disciples “bear the many things” he had to say?
1 These “many things” may have not been so important to explain at his time as he would otherwise have talked about these “many things ” with his intelligent use of metaphores.
2. Jesus is said to have talked Galilean or Hebraic Aramaic with his disciples. The language could not have been the problem that made it “unbearable”. Maybe were the issues he wanted to talk about to difficult to understand at his time, when people did not have the knowledge we have today? Was it about understanding the Universe, the laws behind and God?
In this page, I focus on the Quantum physics enigmas and the enigma of Jesus’ miracles and how these miracles could maybe be explained with some elementary knowledge about Quantum Physics. I also look at definitions of God in holy books and how to get closer to a presumingly (you know for sure I am agnostic) existing God.
The page has been updated with a better index, fixed links, orthography etc.
- About God in holy books
- Human beings view of God
- Understanding God through his creation
- Understanding God studying Quantum theory
- The quantum enigmas explained
- Jesus miracles and quantum particle behaviour
- Quantum entanglement with Jesus?
- Gods/allah’s omnipresence
- The constances of life
- To be on the same frequency
About God in holy books
God in the Bible.
” God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24 )
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” ( Revelation 1:8 )
God in the Quran
Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.“ (All Quran chapters of the Holy Book start with it except Al-Tawba (Chapter 9). (Source : www.aljazeerah.info )
the Exalted in Might, the Wise ( Al-Naml, 27: 9 ).
iLord of the worlds ( Al-Qassas, 28: 30 ).
“The One in the Beginning and in the End” ( urat Al-Ikhlas, Chapter 112, verse 1 )
“the Light of the Heavens and the Earth”
the Hearing, the Seeing ( Al-Shoura, 42: 11 ).
full of forgiveness for the people despite their wrongdoing ( 13: 6 and 41:43. )
The Wisest of Judges
He is the swiftest of accountants ( 6: 62 )
give life to the dead, and He is over all things competent. ( Ar-rum 30: 50 and 41: 39. )
“… did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit” ( al-Baqarah 2:87 )
(Source : www.aljazeerah.info )
among others he shared these principles about God:
- The all is mental (mentalism, something the biocentrists accept)
- Everything vibrates and is rythm, reminding about physicists string theory
- Read more in www.truthinsideofyou.org
- and in http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf
( Image source: www.truthinsideofyou.org )
Human beings view of and connecting to God
I decided to add this part after seeing Morgan Freemans docutmentary about God. He looked at views of God in different part of the world to find similarities. he raises for me important questions and try to find answers.
Hindus view of God
“Behind all Gods there is single divine energy the hindu believer try to get into” a energy that is neither female nor male, it has no name but they call it Brahman. Hinduism looked at superficially seems to be a religion of many gods. But under the surface there is a single divine energy
Why one God in certain cultures and many in others?
Stonehenge, The first monotheists
Stonehenge was build with a focus on the sun. The old stones at Durrington walls focusing on Beacon hill, where demolished after Stonehenge and rebuilt with a focus on the uprising midsummer sun.
Sun the main focus of worship and religious interest to establish a particular connection to the sun. The people of Stonehenge may hjave been the first people to worship a single God. When the Gods were ancestors, a river, they were much more accessible. Woreshiping the Son, they missed this accessibility.
GobekliTepe for the dog star, Sirius,
I were informed about another ancient temple. the world’s oldest temple, #GobekliTepe, in Southern Turkey, may have been built to worship the dog star, Sirius, according to one researcher.
“How do you speak with a God that is so remote?”
He continued in Egypt
Anjali Kumar shares about her search of God in a Ted.
Atenism- the first monotheistic religion
Faraoh Akhenaton decided 1350 ad to worship the sun 100 years after Stonehenge.
His ideas was considered very dangerous. he thought there were to many Gods. He closed most of the temples. “We must have one important God that only I can channel. (Salima Ikram) There is a special God. The name of that God is Aton. You can worship Aton though me. “
That was not a popular move. All the important Gods priests were silenced. As oon as Akhenaton died the old priesthood struck back. His son Tuthankhamon was only 7 years when Akhenaton died and Tithankamon died when he was 19. The priesthood did their best to erase the memory of Akhenaton.
“The Great Hymn to the Aten is the longest of one of a number of hymn-poems written to the sun-disk deity Aten. Composed in the middle of the 14th century BC, it is attributed to the 18th dynasty Pharaoh Akhenaten, who radically changed traditional forms of Egyptian religion by replacing them with Atenism.” (Wiki)
Half the people of the planet can trace their God to the ancient city of Jerusalem. it was in Jerusalem the belief in one single all powerful deity took root 2000 years ago.
How one God won out of many
Yoran Hazony, Jewish philosopher:
“Abrahams father owned a shop with God idols. The pagan Gods of that time represented anything people may need. There was a God that brings the rain, a god of warfare. Some Gods wanted a party, they wanted wine, song and good food, some Gods wanted bloodshed’s. The Bible tell about Abraham wanting to shed his son’s life. A voice stopped him telling to never sacrifice lives again. Jews built a temple over that shedding site to commemorate that event. A temple that the Romans destroyed 70 ad. “
God is a single force that brings physical and moral order.
You could communicate with the God of Abraham without idols or temples. For Jews, Christians and Muslims, the invisible God is always with them wherever and whenever they turn to God.
Al_Hussein Mosque, Cairo, Ahmed Ragab (islamolog)
The call to prayer, For the faithful the song of the Muezzzin is a manifestation of God itself.ed. Morgan Freeman says erroneously “song ” but it is really a Quran recitation that you listen to in the video.)
At the end of the prayer one say “Ahsalamu Aleykum”. (e. “Piece with you”, something you say to people)
Morgan : “A prayer to Allah seems to be like a conversation with a person.”
Morgan to the Imam “In Christianity god is so manifest. There is not such thing in Islam. Who am I talking to?”
Al_Hussein Mosque, Cairo, Imam Al-Amir Mahfouz, (Mosque spiritual leader).
“You can not imagine God. God is beyond imagination. Whatever you would imagine , God is beyond that imagination”
Morgan “Mosques are designed to be filled with beautiful sounds and images that delights the senses, from elaborate architectures to verses of the Quran written with the fines calligraphy.
Many muslims sees this beauty as a manifestation of God itself. (ed. morgan says himself as god were a man. I prefer “itself” in Swedish one sould say “hensjälv”, hen that is neither han (him) nor hon (her) ).
Morgan: “Islam sees god in all things that are beautiful. As God as no form it can be experienced with any of the senses. But these experiences are only aspects of the divine. God is always more than we can imagine.
Some faiths believe God can take a visible form. In a Navajo Hogan in Shiprock, where God and a human become one single being. a Navajo God start living in a girl becoming a woman after a 4 day long kinaalda puberty ceremony, making a giant corn cake in honor of the sun over a fire outside the Hogan” it originates from the woman of change, Asdzaa Nadleehè. they wanted her to have children.
First man and first woman saw a cloud over Gobernador Knob and they hear a baby crying. the holy people instructed them to take care of the baby. In twelve days the baby grew up to a 12 year old girl. She was ready to become a woman. To become a woman the girls must connect to the Spirit of Asdzaa Nadleehè that the Navajo believes lives in the Nature. She must run each day toward tghe uprising sun
It is a pity Morgan hasn’t explored the Sufi meditative approach. Morgan that compared music with God should have done that.
“Dr. Andrew Newberg is a neuroscientist who studies the relationship between brain function and various mental states. He is a pioneer in the neurological study of religious and spiritual experiences, a field known as “neurotheology.”
( Source: http://www.andrewnewberg.com )
Giordano Bruno was trying to understand God through his Creation.
Giordano Bruno, who understood quite well Copernicus heliocentric model, said about God in his authobiography in page 35 that “the only bridge to understanding the infinity of God is to understand the infinity of the Universe.”
Giordano also said in his authobiography in page 20 that in the tiny bubbles in a cup of cuffy, you can see the reflection of the Universe.
My hypothesis is that we in the tiniest quantum particles can see a reflection of God and Jesus.
In the Romans 1:20-22 you can read about God that “For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship”
In James 4:8 you read that “Draw close to God, and he will draw close to you”
A conclusion of Romans 1:20 and James 4:8 is for me
“Study YHWHs (=Gods) Creation and gifts with the new technology we have today and you draw close to God and hopefully YHWH has time to draw close to you helping me in my searches.
Studying the Creation means today, to try to study what Biology, Chemistry and Physics today understand and know about our world e.g.:
- the nucleosynthesis
I believe there is a God but I can not know.
If there is a God who created Universe and all the Creatures, then this God is able to control and use the unified force we had at the beginning of the Universe development. We do not know what can be done with this force. Of course such a God is able to take advantage of the capacity of the quantum particles he created.
I like this verse of Isaiah 40:26:
“Lift up your eyes to heaven and see. Who has created these things? It is the One who brings out their army by number; He calls them all by name. Because of his vast dynamic energy and his awe-inspiring power, Not one of them is missing “
Now with my (limited) knowledges about Quantum particles, I also think that God must master and be able to control the behaviour of the quantum particles, as God created these.
Peter Baksa says: “there is a boundary between science and philosophy, between reality and fantasy. That boundary is Quantum Mechanics. ” and later in the same article: “This insistence on discrete energy levels dictates how atoms interact with one another, which forms the chemistry of bulk matter — everything from the stars to ourselves. So it can be seen that the nature of the very littlest of things can have a tremendous impact on everything else, on the nature of our reality. …”
…Hence, for the first time in the history of man, ask and it shall be given is a biblical truism that can be explained using Quantum theory.”
One another article is about A Physicist Talks about God And The Quantum
“Quantum mysticism is growing up as a phenomena. Some scientists call this be pseudoscience or quackery.”
I may be a quantum mysticist. But I am simply trying to get an idea of the nature of Jesus and God, like Giordano Bruno did.
I try to find a explanation of the mysteries of Jesus miracles with the help of Quantum theory.
To understand my idea of a “Quantum God” it is terefore important you have some basic knowledge about the
- Quantum enigmas
- Jesus miracles
Read more in www.huffingtonpost.com
The quantum enigmas
The physician Domin Walliman after talking 5 minutes about the importance and difficulties to explain science, made a good explanation of some of the Quantum enigmas. Look at this Ted youtube from minute 5:33
open it in Youtube and activate transcript to read in other language.
Before you continue reading me, I recommend to listen to Dominic as I am a novice in Quantum physics,
The single particle double slit experiment changed the way we look at materia. This youtube video explain it very well.
- Particle duality
Photons can be both particles and waves.
Thomas Young demonstrated with this experiment that light is a wave. But today we know that photons that gives us visual impulses in our retina, are particles as well.
just as Newton predicted in his book Opticks.
Also big molecules as buckminsterfullerene can behave in the same way.
2. Quantum entanglement
(in Italian: correlazione quantistica)
Electrons have some kind of contact between them that is faster than light.
A simplified explanation
Electrons rotates like planets around their axes. Physicians call this rotation “spin”. Two electrons can be connected to each other through a so called entanglement. If one of the two electrons change its rotation from e.g. clockwise to counterclockwise the entangled electron will “know about this event” this and act accordingly changing its own rotation to clockwise so they are again in superposition, even if it the other electron is on the other side of the Universe or leaving the other with the speed of light. Also a hydrogen proton can beentangled with its electron at 0 Kelvin. “A spooky action at a distance” as Einstein called it. According to Van Raamsdonk:”The Universe would not function in the same way without Quantum entanglement.” (Source: Van Raamsdonk ).
two entangled particles may be seen “in some quantum sense the same object”.
Philip Ball suggests min5:27 in his youtube “Understanding Quantum Entanglement“
Many biological events (photosynthesis, many enzyme reactions, birds magnetic field sences etc) can not work well without entanglement. I wrote about it in my article about Quantum biology.
Some more enigmatic behaviours are:
3. quantum tunneling – a quantum particle can move through solid objects easily
Protons quantum tunnel into each other avoiding the rejection forces between these. This happens in the sun where two Hydrogen atoms (with one proton) fuse into Helium atoms (with 2 protons) and release solar energy. (Source: Dominic Walliman)
4. A quantum particle can go back in time and change the past.
5. Quantum superposition
A quantum particle can be in two places in the same time (quantum superposition is used in photosynthesis)
Subatomic particles can do two opposite things in the same time, like e.g. spinning (rotating) in both direction at the same time. (Source: Dominic Walliman)
The physician Mark Van Raamsdonk explain this in https://youtu.be/GvRNV6Gmmzk?t=2m47s
Yo may read also this article in http://www.physics.org
To know more you find a lot of good videos in Youtube looking for “Quantum physics”. Another video I looked at is this one from Top5quantum.
Memphisastro explains these quantum enigma. I invite you therefore to look at this video from /www.memphisastro.org
Nils Bohr said once
or “if you are not astonished by the conclusions of quantum mechanics then you have not understood it.”
Jesus miracles are well documented in the Gospels. And there are many
- Jesus walked on the water
- Jesus made bread and wine
- Jesus knew about what was going on elsewere
- Jesus cured sick mens
- Jesus resuscitated dead people
- Jesus resuscitated himself
- Jesus entered a house without opening the door
Even the Muslim Quran recognize Jesus as a messenger, Muslims says that Isa (Jesus ) is one of the greatest prophets and the only one who could make miracles. The Quran says:
“We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus” (ed. english “holy Spirit”) ( Surah 2:87 )
Many people, especcially atheists, think that the stories about the miracles of Jesus are fairy tales for childrens
but for these atheists the physicians stories bout the quantum particles are not controversial at all.
I will below mention some of Jesus miracles together with the Quantum enigma that may explain it.
3. A quantum particle can become invisible
Mary: “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we don’t know where they have put him!” ( John+20 )
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky?
“This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come backin the same way you have seen him go into heaven.” ( Acts1:9 )
A quantum particle can move through solid objects easily (Quantum tunneling)
Jesus entered the house where the apostles where without knocking on and opening the door.
“While they (ed. the apostles) were still talking about this, Jesus himself stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”
“They were startled and frightened, thinking they saw a ghost. He said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts rise in your minds? Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have…. Do you have anything here to eat?” They gave him a piece of broiled fish, and he took it and ate it in their presence.” (Luke 24:36-42 )
“Well, eight days later his disciples were again indoors, and Thomas was with them. Jesus came, although the doors were locked, and he stood in their midst and said: “May you have peace.” Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop doubting* but believe.” In answer Thomas said to him: “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him: “Because you have seen me, have you believed? Happy are those who have not seen and yet believe.” (John 20:27-29 )
A quantum particle can go back in time and change the past.
People who suffered by Leprosy where previously infected by Mycobacterium_leprae. By curing people with Leprosy it is possible that Jesus went back in time and changed the past.
11 Now on his way to Jerusalem, Jesus traveled along the border between Samaria and Galilee. 12 As he was going into a village, ten men who had leprosy met him. They stood at a distance 13 and called out in a loud voice, “Jesus, Master, have pity on us!”
14 When he saw them, he said, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went, they were cleansed.” Luke 17:11-14 )
As explained above one particles behaviour <e.g. spin) impact on a entangled particle behaviour (spin in this case) even if the entangled particle is on the other side of the Universe.
here are two examples that according to me are examples of entaglement of God to Jesus
- Luke 19:29-31 says:
“29 Now it happened that when he was near Bethphage and Bethany, close by the Mount of Olives as it is called, he sent two of the disciples, saying, 30 ‘Go to the village opposite, and as you enter it you will find a tethered colt that no one has ever yet ridden. Untie it and bring it here. 31 If anyone asks you, “Why are you untying it?” you are to say this, “The Master needs it.”
Luke 22,10-23 says:
“He said to them, ‘Look, as you go into the city you will meet a man carrying a pitcher of water. Follow him into the house he enters 11 and tell the owner of the house,’ ‘The Master says this to you: ‘Where is the room for me to eat the Passover with my disciples?’ 12 The man will show you a large upper room furnished with couches. Make the preparations there.”
How could Jesus know about the colt and later the man carrying a pitcher? A hypohesis of mine is that God is omnipresent and God may have been entangled with jesus. What God saw, Jesus saw by entanglement. Knowing about quantum physics, Jesus could maybe have said this metaphore: ” God choose who to become entangled with”. but at Jesus time he had to talk with metaphores for fishermen, shepherds and farmers and not for physicians.
the idea of two entangled objects as the same entity not matter the distance, is confirmed in Jesus words “I and the Father are one” ( John 10.30 ).
I see a possibility of omnipresence with entanglement.
With entanglement God can see with the eyes of those trillion species that have useful eyes, from insects to other animals around you. In the same way is God able to hear with the help of all whose animals and humans around us that have useful ears.
But God can maybe also listen to our brains as we are somehow entangled
I found Dennis Zetting who tries to explain omnipresence using knowledge about elementary physics. I like his introducing with psalm 139:7-10 ). I have however yet difficulties to accept his explanation as a proof of omnipresence. And I wonder what he knows about quantum physics when he talks about electrons spinning around the nucleus. I have not found any article written by him about quantum physics. I think he uses the word “quantum”to legitimize his conclusions. I would not conclude like he does, saying that “the Bible the greatest scientific document ever written”.
We emit light, like infrared light that mosquitos can see. About synapses he talks about, I have never heard that our brains neurons by themselves emit some kind of electromagnetic waves. if you do not let the brain hydrogen atoms respond to certain electromagnetic frequencies MRI scanners emit.
fEven i our neurons emit some strange electromagnetic waves, it doesn’t prove God/Allah “is in us” but possibly able to “listen to us”.
The Bible and the Quran say God is all-knowing. But that could be a reality with entanglement that is a Quantum reality.
Dennis uses a a simple electromagnetical reality to describe a so called Omnipresence. I doubt that that electromagnetic waves from our body and brain could be a way for God to listen to our brain activity and understand our thoughts. I think that the truth is far more complicated than that.
I am a little reluctant that he uses the word “Quantum physics” when his explanation is based on elementary and partly wrong Physics (the spinning electrons is a old view abandoned long time ago). Maybe Dennis uses the word quantum to attract attention and legitimate his conclusions.
Quantum computing with qubits
What can God calculate with quantum calculation?
the cosmological constant is the value of the energy density of the vacuum of space
- Read about string theory and connection between parallell Universes at http://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au
- This article talks about meditation. But I am thinking about having contact with God as many believers thinks or believe they have.
- I believe that Mary. Jesus and all our near relatives who died may be in some parallell Universe. Another hypothesis of mine is that we may be able to talk with them if we succeed to set ourselves in in right mood/frequency.
- Some believe it is possible to get in touch with dead people.
- I wrote about this in http://www.kinberg.net/2018/01/24/life-and-afterlife/#Contacts-afterlife
This man is following my same path
I have two questions I am still searching a answer for:
- How to connect to a God that has no physical form?
For me the inner voice and silence as Elisabeth of trinity suggests, are solutions. I wrote about silence in a separate article.
- How do you know what is divine and what isn’t?
For me divine is something that is not possible to do without the help of God. Jesus words are divine as those words could not have been spoken by a human of his time. Divine are also somehow the laws of nature, laws a human barely understand and would not have been able derive without our mind.
So also our human body is somehow divine. I do not believe in the Creation of man as described in Genesis. Divine is for me the way our body was created through evolution from atoms, molecules, virus and bacteria. No one does still understand the consciousness and how we got it and how we become conscious. So also consciousness is divine whether it is human or animal.
I like what mam Al-Amir Mahfouz (spiritual leader of Al_Hussein Mosque, Cairo). said:
“You can not imagine God. God is beyond imagination. Whatever you would imagine , God is beyond that imagination”
Beyond imagination is also the Quantum field theory that rules the Universe and its creation.
Inspired by Nils Bohr’s saying about Quantum mechanics, I conclude this page with:
“if you are not astonished by the miracles of Jesus,
then you have not understood God.”