13. The highest kindness


This is an excerpts  of my article about kindness at www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/kindness/

present the other cheek as well

At the Catholic Mass February 24  we read  in Luke 6:27-38 ) that  Jesus said:

Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who treat you badly.

29 To anyone who slaps you on one cheek, present the other cheek as well; to anyone who takes your cloak from you, do not refuse your tunic.

30 Give to everyone who asks you, and do not ask for your property back from someone who takes it.

31 Treat others as you would like people to treat you.”

After telling that it is easy to love who loves you, to give to onr who gives to you, Jesus concludes with.

35 Instead, love your enemies and do good to them, and lend without any hope of return. You will have a great reward, and you will be children of the Most High, for he himself is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked.”

When I suggested to “present the other cheek as well” the one I talked with said “I am not an idiot”.

I would say that “present the other cheek as well” is the most intelligent thing you can do with enemies or evil people. Roman Christians did just that and they changed Rome and had soldiers and a emperor to become Christians.

Jesus suggested 2000 years ago a revolutionary tactic on how to behave with bad people.

The Tutsis in Rwanda followed Jesus  forgiving the Hutus who killed their relatives and families. And today Rwanda is a “African  Switzerland”. A testimonial of the value of Jesus teaching.

I would love if the people on my Island Lipari could do the same getting rid of old rage and spend their energi cooperating instead of fighting each other. Lipari could like Kigali become the Bahamas of the south Mediterranean.

12. Is Jesus God? 20190210



“Jesus is God that saves us” said the bishop at the mass in Assisi February 10. The reading today was that of Luke 5:1-11 about Jesus helping the fishermen get huge quantities of fishes and telling the disciples that  “ from now on it is people you will be catching”

Seeing the miracles Jesus did (read my post about Jesus miracles in http://www.kinberg.net  ) It is not strange that his disciples may have thought “Jesus is God” and that the Catholic continued adding this belief in their dogma.



“I and the father are one”

Jesus said according to John 10:30“I and the father are one”

What does “I and the father are one” really mean and imply?

Jesus often talked about God as his father. Father can be understood as “my Creator” or spiritual father.

I would rather read “I and the father ” like “I and God are soulmates” or like “I am a image of God”. But this is valid for all of us, not only Jesus.

I could myself say “my dog  and I and are one.” like being soulmates  but that doesn’t mean that I am a dog.


“ My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mt 27: 46)

In Aramaic Jesus said at the cross short before dying

‘Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?”

Read more in https://www.biblegateway.com


Muslim arguments against

Muslim sources refer to the fact that Jesus was tempted by the devil in the desert and God/Allah would never allow that or Satan would never be able to do that as God  has more power than Satan.

Presuming that  Christians are right , that Jesus really is God, ” the devil in the desert temptation” story could be a way for God  to warn us humans “Be careful of the Whisperings of the Devil.” .

Jesus, entangled to Allah

Muslims and Christians agree however that  Jesus could do miracles. Jesus could according to the Gospels, see things only Allah could (e.g. people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem ) when he was outside Jerusalem.

About Jesus being god, the Muslim are right in their arguing that a God would not be “tempted” by the devil as Jesus was in the desert. Quran 17/111 says ““and not is for him a partner in his dominion”  Muslims conclude therefore hat “Jesus is therefore not God.”.

and not is for him a partner in his dominion”

Jesus  certainly did not meant that he and God were partner in the dominion”. Everything was done with the permission of God, Jesus worshipped many times.

But Muslims recognize Jesus was the only one who could make miracles.

As Quran 2:87 writes  “We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus”

Some miracles show that  Jesus may have been “quantum entangled” with Allah. Jesus could see things Allah could (e.g. see people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem when he was outside, know names and story of the Samaritan woman etc.).

Maybe Jesus in his “Me and my father are one” talked in the sense of being able to do miracles, have divine sight and knowledge and have the same goals. I understand from the Gospels and Jesus praying that God decided over Jesus..

Is Allah the father of Jesus ?

Who is the biological father of Jesus?  Whose mans DNA did Jesus inherit? of course not Gods.  Quran 112/3 say

He neither begets nor is born,

And quran.com/17/111 says that Allah “has not taken a son “

When Jesus talked about “his father” he of course didn’t intend “my biological father that shared with me his DNA” I presume Jesus looked at God as a “spiritual father”a father in the sense of  his Creator in the whomb of Mary. The Quran never specifies the kind of sonship.

Muslims correctly claims Jesus was not Gods son in the biological sense of the word. But since Muslims recognize that Mary was virgin who is the biological father of Jesus?.


 According to Christianity Jesus is God incorporated.

But Jesus himself always talked about God as “my father” and himself as “Son of Man” or in Hebrew “Elohim”.

Jesus emphased the difference between him and God.

The Quran confirms this ifference in position. God is one (despite the frequent use of “we”:

Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is a Messenger as Quran 2:87 writes We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus”

I rely on the words said by Jesus according to the Gospels as It is obvious for me that that it is the father/God/Allah that decides what can be done or not.  The Quran emphasizes this and has to, to be coerent with the fact that there is only one God.

Installing app without Google store


I had to struggle for days to be able to install the app bancoposta on my  Samsung with a italian number. Nothing helped.

Google store said it was “unavailable for my country” So I consulted my son and in 5 minutes I had my bancoposta app installed and working.

How to download and install android app without Google store

  1. Check the name of the app. In my case it was “bancoposta”
  2. With your phone search in google for “bancoposta apk download”
  3. I got a link to https://www.apkmonk.com with this screen
  4. I downloaded and runned that apk and I had my working bancoposta.

PS I had to approve that the app was downloaded outside Google store.


A agnostic pluralist seeker