NDE and afterlife

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INTRODUCTION

The general mainstream materialist view of reality is that physical matter is all there is. So when the physical brain stops working, then the consciousness ends.”
Jim Tucker MD, director, division of perceptual studies. University of Virginia

“NDE experiences challenges the idea that our consciousness, our minds are created by the brain”
Bruce Greyson, prof emeritus, Division at perceptual studies, Psychiatry and neurobehavioral sciences, in “Surviving death” (Netflix)

I read this book. it is really an amazing story of coma paranormal experiences. But I do not like his use of “God”, “Creator”, “Heaven” and more words as these evoke for me, annoying associations due to old diety perceptions and creation stories (e.g. Genesis). He relates to old learned dogmas maybe to please Christian readers as he said in his second book (“The map of heaven”). He criticizes in this second book Scientific materialistic dogmas as well as religious dogmas.

I would have preferred him to rely on more neutral Buddhist or Zoroastrian definitions.

I also do not like the title of his book “Proof of Heaven.” I am used to this kind of sentence by clerks and  Jehovah’s witnesses but not from a man with scientific education. “Signs of Heaven”  would be a more reliable title. 

His books share a new good sign of what several religions have mentioned before, a spiritual life after death.

I have shared what I know about this issue in previous posts.

Alexander like Dr. Kubler Ross years ago has led me into a paradigm shift, having me to question if we ever can get an understanding of  NDE with traditional neurological research. I also have to:

INDEX

Alexander Eben’s NDE experience.

I really recommend his two books. Alexander Eben shares In this video a short introduction. Read the transcript below.

TRANSCRIPT

“Well, it was November 10, 2008, a Monday morning, and I woke up about 4:30, which was an hour earlier than I normally would. I got out of bed and felt an intense pain in my lower back. And of course, I was also at that time starting to slip into unconsciousness because if I had been more alert, as a physician with severe back pain, severe headache, I would have immediately thought of meningitis.
But I was too far gone to be thinking anything. My first awareness deep inside of coma was one in which I had no words, I had no language. I did not remember anything about my life on earth. I knew nothing of humans, nothing of earth or this universe. Meningitis had completely wiped out any notions of my human identity or existence. And then it was as if there was a summer breeze, a perfect summer wind blowing through. And even though the whole scene remained the same, my awareness of it changed completely, and I was out in this void of infinite, infinite coal-black but with an orb of light and with that warm divine presence. But the message was, “You are not here to stay.” “We will teach you many things. But you’ll be going back.” You’d think that I would know already just about everything there was to know about consciousness being an active neurosurgeon. And I lived totally by science and what science had to say about reality. I thought at best maybe I had an Einsteinian view that there might be some powerful creative god but not one who had enough time to worry about me. And of course my near-death experience changed that entirely.   So much of what I saw on my journey showed me how primitive our science is and our human understanding and that in fact, it will never be able to weigh in one way or the other on the existence of that divine creative being, and yet by fully understanding the meaning of unconditional love and the intensity and the personal nature of that deity is that divine spark within each and every one of us.”

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The soul and consciousness

I wrote a separate article about the soul in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/body-soul-and-spirit/

I have no doubt there is a “soul” and maybe also “Spirit” in Humans. That according to several religions (Christian, Buddhist and Zoroastrianism), NDE and reincarnation stories, may survive death outside our brains.
Maybe these exist also in other creatures like Jainism and Hinduism beliefs.

But I wonder how a soul becomes part of the body. Did we inherit the soul of Adam who was cast of our Paradise in Heaven as the Quran tells? That would however contradict Jainist and Hindu believes that thinks that also other creatures have a soul.

My cats have feelings but maybe not the soul that we humans have. We can not exclude this.

With my scientific approach, I can’t avoid thinking about us being somehow entangled in our brain religious center according to neurotheological studies.

Alexander talks a lot about consciousness in his second book “Map of Heaven”, among others about the dependence of consciousness and quantum particle behavior.  

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What if

it was doctor Mengele, the “Angel of death”, the one to have an experience similar to NDE?

Alexander Eben met Betsy in his NDE and noone else. Alexander seemed according to his own biographical writing, to be a good man who has never done something really bad.

Would Dr Mengele have had the same experience of love? I doubt that.

Maybe he would instead receive compassion for the hell he will experience not being able to close eyes and ears (organs that are muted during NDE).

( “weighing the souls of the dead” by Anubis. Source: https://quatr.us  )

According to Egyptian,   Zoroastrian and Buddhist believe, Humans will get their souls:

I these believes reveals the truth, the soul that will continue its life after death, won’t have a filtering brain, ears nor eyes that can be closed.  If EQ was near zero on earth, considering understanding and feelings levels, EQ will be much higher. 
Alexander also told in his book about a higher understanding, that maybe is the same as a consciousness that exists without a brain, like Bruce Greyson see it in NDE.

a Hindu version of the French ” Comme on fait son lit, on le treuve” (www.phrases.org.uk),  is :

“As you have made your bed in this life,
so you will sleep in your next”

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Afterlife believes

Alexander Eben’s books had me to review and update a post from 2018 where I wrote about Life and afterlife.

 Buddhism

Buddhism talks about after death experiences where the soul met King Yama to explain its deeds. See Pale Canon page 29-30  chapter “The divine messengers”
let us hope God will be merciful with us for being that stupid and ignorant on Earth.

Abhidhamma 

Abhidharma (Sanskrit) or Abhidhamma (Pali) are ancient (3rd century BCE and later) Buddhist texts which contain detailed scholastic presentations of doctrinal material appearing in the Buddhist sutras. It also refers to the scholastic method itself as well as the field of knowledge that this method is said to study. (Wiki )

abhidhamma

This Buddhist view reminds me very much about the Egyptian  Underworld God Osiris weighting the heart of Mena against the God of truth maat in this hieroglyph found in Mena’s grave:

With a heavy heart you can not fit up to Heaven. Read more in  e.g. http://maatlaws.blogspot.com/

 

Zoroastrianism

Zoroastrianism was the first monotheistic religion. Zarathushtra was the first Zoroastrian prophet who is said to have written the Song of Zarathushtra, the Gatas. The main moral for this religion today practiced by Zoroastrians around the world is “Good thoughts, Good deeds”

About the Zoroastrian Persian King, we can be read in  2 Chronicles 36:22-23 

Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying,  Thus says Cyrus king of Persia:

All the kingdoms of the earth the Lord God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah. Who is among you of all His people? May the Lord his God be with him, and let him go up!”

About the Zoroastrian God can be read in 

About afterlife for Zoroastrians, can be read in

www.heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism/death/index.htm

I wrote more about Zoroastrism in www.kinberg.net/2017/09/26/being-interreligious/#Gathas

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conclusion

I had paranormal experiences. when I was young. And I have also studied neurology as well as the experiences of Dr. Ross several years ago.

 


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