Devil perceptions

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Introduction

This page was once published 2018 April 24 as a post. I decided to make a page of it. to support my page about bias and deities.

This post was from the beginning focused on the discrimination of women by men and the reason for this, I found in the Bible. I later found a documentary made by Morgan Freeman about evilness and why there is evilness. He asks “Why does God/Allah not stop this?”. I think this is an important question I earlier had an answer for. This page will soon be updated with information about Holy wars, mass murders (Tutsi among others), and persecutions like those of Rohingya Muslims in Burma. Index

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Believes in the devil

Joseph Baker wrote that“over half of the respondents absolutely believe in the existence of Satan and hell, while 47.7% “absolutely” believe that demons exist. When the categories of “absolutely” and “probably” are combined over 75% believe in Satan, over 73% believe in hell, and nearly 70% believe in demons. Given the United States’ comparatively high level of religious belief (see Norris and Inglehart 2004) these figures are not unexpected, but they do provide quantitative evidence for the prevalence of such beliefs. This belief seems still to be strong. “According to a 2013 YouGov survey “57 percent of respondents believe that the devil exists, including 72 percent of African Americans, 65 percent of Republicans and 61 percent of women. Most believers are Christian and live in the South” ( Daily mail and”( www.psychologytoday.com

  • How many especially women have not been tortured and killed as believed to be in conspiracy with the devil?
  • In the name of God, there have been many massacres. Psychology today tries to analyze this. ( Read more in www.psychologytoday.com )

So the belief in a God and Satan, are topics that have to be looked at seriously. My questions are:

  • Why this widespread belief in deities like satan and God?
  • What does psychology say about the concept of God and Devil?

I will in this article try to give some light to these two phenomena. For many, the devil is something real and serious. For some others, it is an object of fun. Rowan Atkinson made a parody of the Devil in this video: If there is some truth in the Genesis and later in the Quran and in the Gospel, the Devil talks with convincing words, like he did to the intelligent woman who wanted to know more about good and evil and to many others after her. If the devil exists then:

  • Satan, as it is described in sacred texts, seems to be an intellígent beast:
  • He has a masculine character that loves power. But it was intelligent enough not imposing and commanding even with the use of violence. Others did that for this beast.
  • it is a jealous type that wants to be like God
  • it is a sadistic type that loves others to suffer because he himself probably did being lower than God.
  • it is an egocentric type that likes to brag about his knowledge (he knew about the Creation process and observed God with comments like “And God saw that it was good” (1:18,1:21,1:25)
  • It likes according to me, to brag about his power:
    • to destroy the  paradise and Creation of God, by convincing Eve and indirectly Adam,  he did in the story of Genesis

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Evilness

Theological explanations Christians and Muslims say that Evilness comes from the Devil ( shaitan). We are according to the Bible inherently evil as we inherited evilness from Adam and Eve who “choose” to listen to the devil, the “original sin”.  That is a theological explanation.  I am inspired by the Quran that tells that there was a long time in the development of man that is “unknown”.  A prisoner in jail for multiple murder and rapes said he did this being led by inspiration, desire  and impulses he could not control. There were no plans behind his acts. the man is an example of a psychopath, that lacks among others empathy and impulse control. This can be seen in a MRT ( magnetic resonance tomography ).  This kind of human seems to have parts of the emotional brain underdeveloped There are methods to identify psychopathy.  the Hare Psychopathy Checklist is a tool to screen screening tests for potential psychopaths. (  Source: https://www.businessinsider.com ).  With brain-scan on youth from the age of 12,  it is possible to intercept brain underdevelopment and future destructive behavior. This man is like Morgan says “evil personified”. We have fought for thousands of years with evil instincts.  Morgan asks “Does a psychopath have a possibility to choose not being evil?” A theosophic anthropological hypothesis I think  we are able to become evil as we inherited a brain from the  instinct driven animal world. Animal unempathic instincts were essential for surviving  once in a time. We have alter on developed a frontal lobe of reason and empathy,  that must control the “snake or red chicken brain” we still have, the animal in us. If that is not the case like with psycopaths, the animal brain easily takes over, developing behaviours that we call evil. My  hypothesis is theologically nourished  by the  Creation as described in the Quran as I mentioned above. I described it in my  “Unified theory Creation  theory” in http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2017/09/08/unified-creation-theory/  that theory later ended up  in my “Enlightened Genesis” in http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/the-enlightened-genesis/ Thanks to the developement of the frontal lobe and reasoning, because of this, I wonder now if  the Quranic hispering devil (Iblis) has got a possibility to mislead us and make us choose the easy solutions, like giving freedom to wrath, revenge and similar expressions. This is especcially possible if a human has a underdeveloped frontal lobe like in youth and people with psycopathic tendencies. The zoroastrian view of evil is:  “God is in all of us.  Good and evil exists in us all. We must make the choice. Each one of us has to purge the evil from within us by doing good Purging the world of evil is not the work of messiahs, its the work of each one of us, whoever we are. https://youtu.be/qVCKHky2Fkk?t=2h47m6s  

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Discrimination of women

  Paul wrote wrote this about the Bible in  2Timothy 3:16 “All Scripture is inspired of God ….” After my article about  the “women keep silent” article, I stumbled again upon a similar txt från Paul at a JW meeting. “Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands” colossians/3-18.htm ) and no woman reacted at the meeting. I talked with a young talented JW (Jehovah witness). She promised to come back with explanations about significance of the biblical word of submission. . Submission of women I later got answer from another JW. Submission is better explained  by Paul in his mail to the ephesians. (  Ephesians 5:21-25 ) with these words: 21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ. 22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.  23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.  25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her  26to make her holy, 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her  26to make her holy” I like independent and intelligent women to collaborate and learn with. I dont want to be the “head of my wife”. I like to cooperate so I am very reluctant to instructions like women “submit to their husbands in everything.” and similar. There are situations when the husband should submit to his wife e.g. if the wife is a doctor and the husband is sick. For some reason I dont know, you do not hear these and similar texts at Catholic mass anymore.  It is a fact that women are better students, get often better results and are many times more intelligent than men. So I see no intelligence in this and similar sentences of Paul nor a inspiration of all knowing God. How many women have not been beaten and eve killned because they did not “submeir huit” to thsbands acccording to a presumed “divine” law? Looking at what men have done on this earth, men should submit and listen to their wise women sometimes. Paul explains clearly in Ephesian verse25 that the husbands should love their wife. But how many times hasnt Pauls text been manipulated and abused for other purposes<? A divine messenger inspired by a all-kniowing God, choose the words well, to not cause unneccesary damages. A all knowing God would understand how bad choosen words could be used by evil men. I do not mention how Pauls words may  have been used by feminist atheists to argument that Christianity  supports discrimination and submission of women. The word “submission” has with time since Paul used it taken different definitions.  https://bibleresources.org/submission-in-marriage/ explains submission in mariage with  “yielding to another’s desires without resistance” (Source : bibleresources.org ) something some men believe is that the husband should accept any kind of sexual  desires. . Women today Women are taking over more and more, as doctors, pilotes, experts, polices, not only in the western world. Women have also become important in Pakistan Police force. Bildresultat för pakistan women train fighting And many Pakistani girls attend boxing club to become better defending themselves from ignorant men who like to submit women with violence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZeaSGocITo  . Inspired by the Devil? Thinking about the negative consequences of

  • Genesis Adam and Eve story (read more about this in the-enlightened-genesis/) ,
  • Pauls many sentences about the wifes and husbands roles
  • Peters mudrer of Anania and Sapphira, 

Moses and the apostles may have been inspired by the Devil, rather than by God. The Quran warns about this telling what Iblis (the devil) at the beginning in heaven  said: By your might, I will surely mislead them all. Except your slaves, among them, the chosen one.   [ Quran 38:82-83 ) I wonder who were the chosen one excepted from Iblis treath. Jesus? The  Quran recommends this prayer: “My Lord, I seek refuge in You from the suggestion of the evil ones.”  (Quran 23:97 ) As this  article from islamweb.net says . Whispering is the Devil’s Weapon How many time haven’t you read about Psychotic Thoughts when e.g. a killer said “A voice told me to do this.” Believe in the Devil or not, but such thoughts are a reality. If there is a devil, not only killers have been misled. As I wrote above even the Christian apostle’s Peter and Paul may have in my opinion, been misled. Peter killed Anania and Sapphira for a stupid lie, as I wrote about in “Top abuse of power”. Eve was tempted according to the old Genesis and Adam didn’t use his brain and followed Eve to please her. Jesus was tempted in the desert. Maybe even other prophets were misled from the Moses law of not murdering and judgeing, like Mohamad (PBUH) who attacked monotheist Zoroastrians having them search safety in India. All of us humans especially if we have power, are subject to the risk of being misled. Look at  the side effects of power: ‘Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely’ (Source: www.phrases.org.uk ) About the use of the word submission, Paul explains clearly the role of the husband “to love his wife”. But his use of “submit” in  “Wives, submit yourselves to your husbands” taken out of its context was easy to interpret differently by e.g. evil-minded men something that has been done for centuries after Paul wrote this.


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