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Italian lack of punctuality

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www.beyondtoscano.com/entertainment/italian-punctuality-reliably-unreliable-217/  writes this in the post “Italian punctuality: reliably unreliable”:

“Italian punctuality can at times feel like an oxymoron, even though to many Italians, unpunctuality is a constant annoyance.

In saying ‘sometime around’ many Italians are secretly implying a time you’re expected to arrive (9pm) while giving themselves a 15 window of time to arrive. with the Italian tendency to delay or push back deadlines, it could be later still. This habit seems more prevalent the further south in Italy you go, … “

www.italymagazine.com/forums/general-chat-about-italy/11522-italians-and-punctuality.html  is harder in its critics,  writing 

“Those of you who, like me, know a number of Italians, have probably realised that most have little or NO concept of time and punctuality,

The Italymagazine editor  continues with:

“But this seems to be an endemic part of the Italian make up. They never keep to time in their personal lives.”

I have done business with Italians since 1995. I agree with italymagazine especcially here in Sicily. I have always thought the Sicilians are slower less willing to stress because of the heat. I may be wrong.

I myself tend instead to come to meetings  before time to avoid the stress and prevent unexpected events that may delay me. I love walking slowly the last meters to destination especially with the Sicilian Summer heat. And I do not want others to loose their precious time. As John in the video I share below

“Time is the  most important human resource”. We dont live 400 years like Abraham.  Don’t we?

If i visit my doctor I am prepared for a waiting session as I know that a patients illness before me may require more time than expected by the doctor. I have experience of very long  waiting times in Swedish hospitals. So, when I visit a doctor I plan for a longer wait with a newspaper or spending the time planning the rest of my day or week or ejoying a talk with other patients.

I am trying to find a solution for unexpected waiting time. Shall I become a time robber coming late too? But as .beyondtoscano.com writes, Italians expect others to be punctual.

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Punctual people.

I like to listen to this Youtubeas he is making a little bit fun about himself.

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Time robbers

I dont find any site telling about lack of punctuality and time stealing. But I find a lot of sites telling about time robbers. The best slide i found was this:

But as you can see this table just list factors that steal time from you. But time robbers may be stealing your time because these factors steal time from them.

I presume that two factors are the main contributors of Italian lack of punctuality:

  1. poor planning
  2. Phone calls and Inability to say “no”
  3. Taking on to much and ineffective or lacking of delegation

1. I have noted that very few Italian may use a calendar, paperback nor digital. I have not met anyone using this technique.
2, When I had a meeting, if someone else called, I have never heard “Sorry I have a meeting now. can I call you back when I am ready?”

only once in my Italian experience, I  heard “Sorry for being late”

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How to stop being late

Maybe this video gives you a few hints

For me the most valuable tips are:

  1. Build margin in the calendar
  2. Cut off things
  3. Change your attitude having “no” as your defaults answer
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  5. Plan to be early and plan something enjoyable to do while you wait.
  6. Make deadlines non-negotiable
  7. Know you personality type.
    Psychologist Dr. Linda Sapadin identified four chronically late personality types:

    1. perfectionists should be optimalist instead
    2. dreamers are often overoptimistic with time.
    3. crisis makers should practice adrenalin sports instead.
    4. Defiers  who hates being told what to do  should instead  rebel against social norms that are actually harmful
  8. Sourcve;: www.realmenrealstyle.com/be-more-punctual/

Academic quarter

Perhaps the solution is the Swedish “akademisk kvart” (“Academic quarter” German “Akademisches Viertel”, Italian: “Quarto d’ora accademico”

I have found a Italian site about “Quarto d’ora accademico” in italianosemplicemente.com/2016/11/07/il-quarto-dora-accademico che tra l’altro dice degli italiani “non siamo in generale rigidi nel rispetto delle regole, almeno nelle regole dell’orario e della puntualità. Questa mancanza di capacità di stare alle regole, di stare nel “recinto” delle regole, se da una parte è una mancanza di rispetto verso chi invece le regole le rispetta, dall’altra ci dà probabilmente la capacità di stare al di fuori della logica comune, e questo porta l’italiano ad una maggiore creatività, una maggiore inventiva, una maggiore capacità di inventare e di lavorare con la fantasia. Questa ovviamente può essere una delle possibili interpretazioni, una delle tante.”

I reallt wonder if this time culture helps the Italians to become more creative “porta l’italiano ad una maggiore creatività“. Creativity depends on your time of relax. The Italian siesta and relax is I think a better space for creativity.

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How to deal with the Italian lack of Punctuality

the academic quarter was not permitted in compulsory school in Sweden. But this academic culture is maybe a solution. Shall I plan with coming sometime within 15 minutes? I don’t have a answer yet, how to deal with this issue.  I see however  no reason to come before as this would make me still more irritated if the others come late.

or like John says in his youtube above “I try to be less early”

I like the idea www.realmenrealstyle.com/be-more-punctual/ sugggests:

Plan to be early and plan something enjoyable to do while you wait.”

so If someone comes late I can go and take a cup of granita?

Virgina Raggi’s fight against polluter.

Rome Mayors Virgina Raggi published a post in her facebook profile with a video of a polluter. This is what he wrote translated to English

What you see in this video is not a simple “zozzone”, but something more. We could call it a “super zozzone”

“This man, an employee of a construction company, was pinched by the agents of the Environment Unit and Local Police Decoration while he was throwing three bags of waste materials into a dumpster for domestic use. Three large 30-pound bags containing linoleum, aggregates, packaging and plastic.

For this reason, after being invited to recover the waste that had just been thrown away, the man was sanctioned, together with the managers of the company, for a total of 3,100 euros. A figure that we hope will serve to make it clear that road bins cannot be used in this way.

Those who make themselves responsible for this type of gestures, I must point out, commit an environmental crime and, in this sense, they respond to it before the law. I thank the women and men of the Local Police for their contribution, always attentive and punctual, and I invite all of you to report these “super zozzoni” to the police.”

3100 Euro is in fact nothing compared to the damage these criminals and companies are causing Society.

Virgina Raggi is a Mayor, the Mayor of Lipari should learn from to fight against the polluter on this island.

Btw, why doesn’t the clergymens talk about the polution on this island?  The clergymen never critisized nazism during the war. Now the Church is silent about the immature behaviour of some citizens polluting the Creation

with one exception. I wrote about it in a post on www.kireus.com/wordpress/lipari/2019/02/26/bene-al-creato/

The evolution of cooperation in South Italy.

there looks to be some kind of concurrence between the Aeolian Islands and the litle harbour of Milazzo in Sicily, where most boats and airfoils start their transfers to the islands.

 I experienced a few times that boats for some unknown reason did not depart to the islands. It happened to me that I had to stay overnight on Christmas Eve in Milazzo instead of being home on my island. the weather wasnt to bad for the last boat to make the transfer. People explained that the personel decided to stay at home as it was Christmas.  The hotel where I stayed overnight was happy to have a few rooms rented out. 

A troup of photographer and photmodels planned to come to Vulcano to make a  photo session a few days ago. They had to renounce as the same boat company canceled the departure.

Did the boat staff made a favor to the Milanese hotels? On the long run, I would say absolutely not.

I wrote an article about the evolution and importance of cooperation some time ago. You can find it at http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/02/04/cooperation/

Nobody earns in the long term with destructive actions and unfair competition.

If the islands miss visits, Milazzo restaurants, shops and bars in Milazzo loose money. And in the long run they will not even have beds sold with bad weather. I would think that if I am in Catania, I would go to Syracuse where I have friends, instead of taking the risc to stay overnight in Milazzo. For the Milazzo people it should not be difficult to understand this.

The Milazzo hotels have their own tourist share when the adverse sea helps them.  But is that enough? It is good they take care of the tourists and island inhabitants. But why be happy with that? With inteligence and local area cooperation Milazzo  can do a lot. Look at the photo above of CApe Milazzo. I  also imagine a lot of nice trecking possibilities in the mountains between Etna and Milazzo if they prevent the woods from getting burned during the summer season. Sicliy is indeed wonderful and can attract a lot of Tourism. Look at Palermo in October when the hotels were all booked.  People from northern Europe like me do their best to flee from the winter darkness to get some sun. Sicily and the Aeolian islands can offer that. I have the last ten years spent my Christman and New Years Eve in Siclity and  Lipari enjoying a lot of trecking and even New years Eve Swim in the Tirrenean sea that has Swedish summer water temperature.

But they should  not forget that the Milazzo inhabitants can do a lot to develop their local tourism too with the beautiful beaches they have, with the Milazzo Castle and promontory and its bronze age settlements.

Booking just informed “Prices in Milazzo dropped again.”

Hotel owners in Milazzo and on the Aolian islands should met and share knowledges and ideas how to develop the MIlazzo – Barcellona area.If someone has made errors and is not a Christian hypocrit, ask for forgivness and reopen the doors for a constructive  dialog.

Milazzo needs the Aeolian Islands.

The Aeolian islands needs Milazzo.

 

I like the initiative and work of https://www.travelnostop.com/sicilia