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9. Jesus miracles

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Sunday  20 January at the Vatholic mass we read about the first miracle of of Jesus. Also the Quran talks about the miracle of Jesus but with a different perspetive.

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The first miracle

John 2, 1-11 says: 

1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee. The mother of Jesus was there, 2 and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited. 3 And they ran out of wine, since the wine provided for the feast had all been used, and the mother of Jesus said to him, ‘They have no wine.’ 4 Jesus said, ‘Woman, what do you want from me? My hour has not come yet.’ 5 His mother said to the servants, ‘Do whatever he tells you.’ 6 There were six stone water jars standing there, meant for the ablutions that are customary among the Jews: each could hold twenty or thirty gallons. 7 Jesus said to the servants, ‘Fill the jars with water,’ and they filled them to the brim. 8 Then he said to them, ‘Draw some out now and take it to the president of the feast.’ 9 They did this; the president tasted the water, and it had turned into wine. Having no idea where it came from — though the servants who had drawn the water knew — the president of the feast called the bridegroom 10 and said, ‘Everyone serves good wine first and the worse wine when the guests are well wined; but you have kept the best wine till now.’ 11 This was the first of Jesus’ signs: it was at Cana in Galilee. He revealed his glory, and his disciples believed in him.”

Not only the New testament talks about jesus Miracles.

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Jesus miracles in the Quran

In the Quran we read about Mary (Maryam) and jesus (Isa):

“And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.” ( Quran 21:91 )

And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit.”  ( Quran 2:87 )

These texts are the reason why good Muslims consider Jesus (Isa as they call him), one of the greatest prophets.

A miracle done by Jesus, mentioned only  in the Qur’an

The Quran tells about  some miracles. Like this on the table where Jesus asks Allah for a miracle, of which you are in www.islamreligion.com :

“When the disciples said: O Jesus, son of Mary!  Is your Lord able to send down for us a table spread with food from heaven?  He said: Observe your duty to God, if ye are true believers. They said: We desire to eat of it and our hearts be at rest, and that We may know that you have spoken truth to us, and that We may be witnesses thereof.  Jesus, son of Mary, said: ‘O God, our Lord, send down for us a Table laden with food out of heaven, that shall be for us a recurring festival, the first and last of us, and a miracle from You. And provide us our sustenance, for You are the best of providers!” ( Quran 5:112-114 )

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Jesus miracles always with God/Allahs permission.

The Quran clearly tells the Jesus does miracles always with Allahs permission.

In Quran 3:49 your read:

“And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead – by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.”

I never read about this bird miracle in the Gospels. 

Leggi di più in (Fonte: www.islamreligion.com )

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Conclusions

 According to Christianity Jesus is God incorporated.

But Jesus himself always talked about God as “my father” and himself as “Son of Man” or in Hebrew “Elohim”.

Jesus emphased the difference between him and God.

The Quran confirms this difference in position. God is one (despite the frequent use o f “we”):

Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is a Messenger as Quran 2:87 writes  “We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus”

I rely on the words said by Jesus according to the Gospels as It is obvious for me that that it is the “father” or God or Allah  that decides what can be done or not.  The Quran emphasizes this beingcoerent witht the fact that there is only one God.

7. Possession of translated Gospel = heresy

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December 28. This is excerpt 7 from a page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019. It is important to know that the translation of the New testament written in Hebrew, Latin and Greek was prohibited by the catholic church. They wanted to have the sole right to the true Bible maybe to hide bad translations and erroneous dogmatic belief conclusions.

History

Catholic decrees

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

The jews may have wonder at this time if the Catholic Church was trying to steal their sacred texts for their own purposes.

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned…”
( Source: http://www.justforcatholics.org  )

The Bible did not exist in other languages than Hebrew,  Latin and Greek.

John Wycliffe translated the Bible to English and was sentenced to death for this, 1384. 

Wycliffs handwritten  translated Bible circulated however illegally. But owner of  his translation were all accused of heresy and sentenced to death at the stake by burning.

William Tyndale born 1494 hated the Catholic Church banishment of the English Bible. he was also one of the few who understood Greek and Latin.  he also understood German. As England was Catholic and his life in danger, he fled to Germany.

In Germany there was a  Lutheran  German version of the New Testament available.

William made there in Germany a  new English translation of the Greek New Testament (NT) with  a language that everyone could understand. His NT  was printed in huge quantities in Antwerpen. As his NT fit  a small book it was easy for everyone to hold and also to smuggle to England.

“Studying the NT, William Tyndale came to denounce the practice of prayer to Saints. He understood that Man’s salvation from first to last depends on God alone. ” ( Source: Wiki )

William Tyndale was caught in Antwerpen, held in prison in Belgium and  sentenced 1535 to be burned to death in England. 

He finally was strangled to death while tied at the stake October 1536, and then his dead body was burned”.

15 years after his death the William Tyndale NT became legal because the King of England wanted to divorce but could do that only by becoming a Protestant.

The King James Bible is 90% William Tyndales translation.

See the story in this video:

Why

The Catholic church may have wanted to hide that

  • Jesus was a practicing Jew
  • Jesus never talked for a creation of a new religion
  • Parts of the NT were to remain hidden (like Love your enemy”) to allow the Catholic church to kill
  • Parts of the NT were not historically correct (Some are fantasies written to support Catholic dogmas, especcially about the birth and youth of Jesus as I have talked about in another  posts
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  • parts of the NT were not correctly translated (like e.g. Greek “stauros” to “cross” instead of “pole” )

www.justforcatholics.org writes that

‘In early times, the Bible was read freely by the lay people, and the Fathers constantly encourage them to do so, although they also insist on the obscurity of the sacred text. No prohibitions were issued against the popular reading of the Bible. New dangers came during the Middle Ages. When the heresy of the Albigenses arose there was a danger from corrupt translations, and also from the fact that the heretics tried to make the faithful judge the Church by their own interpretation of the Bible. To meet these evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Tarragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required the bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of the Scripture, unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such readings was likely to prove beneficial.’

Read more  in www.huffingtonpost.com/bernard-starr/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545.html 

I added this story to the top abuse of power list in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/04/16/abuse-of-power

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6. The difficult youth of Jesus.

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December 30.  Jesus is growing. He was not a normal boy and may have suffered during his childhood. This is excerpt 6 from  a  page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019.

This video is nice but Luke tells really a different story. Jesus is 12 year and is in the Temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them, and asking them questions. ( Luke 2:46  ) Mary and Joseph are there and are anxious after having searched  for him.  He

“49  replied, ‘Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?'”
This is the only text describing a young Jesus in the Gospels. You find it in  Luke 2:49

Jesus is not like other children his age, playing games with other childrens. In the film above I am reminded about a boy with Asperger.

How were his first 12 years? Did they ridiculed  him like they did years later when he was an adult? (Matthew 9: 24 )

He was a special boy, born by a unknown father. He probably did not look like his father.
Neighboors maybe  talked bad about him and his mother while their childrens listened.

Deuteronomy 23:2 supported such a treatment with this text:

HEB:  לֹא־ יָבֹ֥א מַמְזֵ֖ר בִּקְהַ֣ל יְהוָ֑ה
NAS: No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD

Jesus was special, he was intelligent. He may have therefore been  a treath for other envious weak childrens in the small village of Nazareth, children looking for respect and power. Like he was as an adult. 

If bullyism existed, he was a typical victim of bullyism. I wrote about bullyism in one of my pages.  As I documented there.  Famous  Henry Thomas alias “ET-boy” and Jack Lloyd, child actor in Star Trek suffered bullyism. Why not also Jesus?

Jesus may have been quantum entangled with God and therefore talked with the knowledge of God.  But when he talked about childrens he talked like on who knew how it is to be a child and what children most of all need.

This is how Jesus talked when “people  brought babies to him” and “the  disciples scolded them“:

16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not stop them; for it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. 17 In truth I tell you, anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.'” (  Luke 18:15-17 )

He knew what it meant for a children to be

  • ridiculed as he maybe himself probably was ridiculed by other childrens
  • he knew how important it was to love our childrens.
  • he knew how important the “love your enemy and pardon” strategy was  as he himself had tested it
  • he knew how weak childrens can be as he himself has felt that weakness.

I think that this video from the mormon channel, gives an idea of Jesus relation with childrens.

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