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12. Is Jesus God? 20190210

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Introduction

“Jesus is God that saves us” said the bishop at the mass in Assisi February 10. The reading today was that of Luke 5:1-11 about Jesus helping the fishermen get huge quantities of fishes and telling the disciples that  “ from now on it is people you will be catching”

Seeing the miracles Jesus did (read my post about Jesus miracles in http://www.kinberg.net  ) It is not strange that his disciples may have thought “Jesus is God” and that the Catholic continued adding this belief in their dogma.

Index

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“I and the father are one”

Jesus said according to John 10:30“I and the father are one”

What does “I and the father are one” really mean and imply?

Jesus often talked about God as his father. Father can be understood as “my Creator” or spiritual father.

I would rather read “I and the father ” like “I and God are soulmates” or like “I am a image of God”. But this is valid for all of us, not only Jesus.

I could myself say “my dog  and I and are one.” like being soulmates  but that doesn’t mean that I am a dog.

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“ My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” (Mt 27: 46)

In Aramaic Jesus said at the cross short before dying

‘Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?”

Read more in https://www.biblegateway.com

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Muslim arguments against

Muslim sources refer to the fact that Jesus was tempted by the devil in the desert and God/Allah would never allow that or Satan would never be able to do that as God  has more power than Satan.

Presuming that  Christians are right , that Jesus really is God, ” the devil in the desert temptation” story could be a way for God  to warn us humans “Be careful of the Whisperings of the Devil.” .

Jesus, entangled to Allah

Muslims and Christians agree however that  Jesus could do miracles. Jesus could according to the Gospels, see things only Allah could (e.g. people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem ) when he was outside Jerusalem.

About Jesus being god, the Muslim are right in their arguing that a God would not be “tempted” by the devil as Jesus was in the desert. Quran 17/111 says ““and not is for him a partner in his dominion”  Muslims conclude therefore hat “Jesus is therefore not God.”.

and not is for him a partner in his dominion”

Jesus  certainly did not meant that he and God were partner in the dominion”. Everything was done with the permission of God, Jesus worshipped many times.

But Muslims recognize Jesus was the only one who could make miracles.

As Quran 2:87 writes  “We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus”

Some miracles show that  Jesus may have been “quantum entangled” with Allah. Jesus could see things Allah could (e.g. see people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem when he was outside, know names and story of the Samaritan woman etc.).

Maybe Jesus in his “Me and my father are one” talked in the sense of being able to do miracles, have divine sight and knowledge and have the same goals. I understand from the Gospels and Jesus praying that God decided over Jesus..

Is Allah the father of Jesus ?

Who is the biological father of Jesus?  Whose mans DNA did Jesus inherit? of course not Gods.  Quran 112/3 say

He neither begets nor is born,

And quran.com/17/111 says that Allah “has not taken a son “

When Jesus talked about “his father” he of course didn’t intend “my biological father that shared with me his DNA” I presume Jesus looked at God as a “spiritual father”a father in the sense of  his Creator in the whomb of Mary. The Quran never specifies the kind of sonship.

Muslims correctly claims Jesus was not Gods son in the biological sense of the word. But since Muslims recognize that Mary was virgin who is the biological father of Jesus?.

Conclusions

 According to Christianity Jesus is God incorporated.

But Jesus himself always talked about God as “my father” and himself as “Son of Man” or in Hebrew “Elohim”.

Jesus emphased the difference between him and God.

The Quran confirms this ifference in position. God is one (despite the frequent use of “we”:

Jesus (Isa in Arabic) is a Messenger as Quran 2:87 writes We gave ‘Îsa (jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus”

I rely on the words said by Jesus according to the Gospels as It is obvious for me that that it is the father/God/Allah that decides what can be done or not.  The Quran emphasizes this and has to, to be coerent with the fact that there is only one God.

11. Nazareth of Jesus

Introduction

February 2 the Catholic Mass read Luke 4:21-30 Being in Nazaret hi hometown Jesus talked among others about being prophet in his own hometown. Luke most probably never was in Nazaret. I will in this post share facts about Nazareth

Lukes description

Jeuss told about “Elijah’s day, when heaven remained shut for three years and six months and a great famine raged throughout the land” Luke 4:25  

Luke dedscribes what happened after his speech in Luke 4:28-30:

“28 When they heard this everyone in the synagogue was enraged. 29 They sprang to their feet and hustled him out of the town; and they took him up to the brow of the hill their town was built on, intending to throw him off the cliff, 30 but he passed straight through the crowd and walked away.

Nazareth

Nazaret is described by Luke as a town with a Synagogue like this one in Köln:

NB Jesus never talked about his town but his country (maybe intednded as Upper Galilee) in 4:24:

“24 And he went on, ‘In truth I tell you, no prophet is ever accepted in his own country.”

Nazaret was at the time of Jesus, a small village at jesus time with about 12 families, t or  200 inhabitants.

Know more listening to this Youtube called Nazareth of Jesus 

Conclusions

Luke did his best to draw a historical and geographical picture of Jesus, thinking that wass not so important . most important is the  message of Jesus. Luke never lived with Jesus nor knew about his youth. Here he reveals for the second time that he never were in Nazaret. The first time was when he in Luke 2:4 told that Mary went from Nazaret to Betlehem a few days before Jesus birth. Nazaret is about 80 chilometers away from Betlehem. Imagine your daughter jumping on a donkey even 1 chilometer. If Luke was a doctor as Paul mentioned him once , Luke was for sure no doctor knowing about pregnant womens.

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10 Jesus’ mission declarations

Introduction

Sunday  27 January at the Catholic mass we read about Jesus first  ministry declaration.

Jesus first mission declaration in Galilee

As you can read in Luke 4, 14-21  ” 14 Jesus, with the power of the Spirit in him, returned to Galilee; and his reputation spread throughout the countryside. 15 He taught in their synagogues and everyone glorified him. 16 He came to Nazara, where he had been brought up, and went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day as he usually did. He stood up to read, 17 and they handed him the scroll of the prophet Isaiah. Unrolling the scroll he found the place where it is written:

18 The spirit of the Lord is on me, for he has anointed me…

  • to bring the good news to the afflicted. 
  • He has sent me
  • to proclaim liberty to captives,
  • sight to the blind, to
  • let the oppressed go free, 19 
  • to proclaim a year of favour from the Lord. 20 

He then rolled up the scroll, gave it back to the assistant and sat down. And all eyes in the synagogue were fixed on him. 21 Then he began to speak to them,

‘This text is being fulfilled today even while you are listening.’

jesus final declaration in Capernaum

AsJohn 6:27-54 tells, Jesus will later in Capernaum explain that he will give us food that endures for eternal life.

27 Do not work for food that goes bad, but work for food that endures for eternal life, which the Son of man will give you, for on him the Father, God himself, has set his seal.

Jesus   explains in this Capernaum declaration why he  at the last supper said to the disciples to eat his body and drink his blood with the words ‘This is my body given for you; do this in remembrance of me.’ 20 ‘This cup is the new covenant in my blood poured out for you.” (in Luke 22:19-20  )

I will come back to this final declaration in a future post.

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