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7. Possession of translated Bible = heresy

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December 28. This is excerpt 7 from a page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019. It is important to know that the translation of the New testament written in Hebrew, Latin and Greek was prohibited by the catholic church. They wanted to have the sole right to the true Bible maybe to hide bad translations and erroneous dogmatic belief conclusions.

History

Catholic decrees

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

The jews may have wonder at this time if the Catholic Church was trying to steal their sacred texts for their own purposes.

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned…”
( Source: http://www.justforcatholics.org  )

The Bible did not exist in other languages than Hebrew,  Latin and Greek.

John Wycliffe translated the Bible to English and was sentenced to death for this, 1384. 

Wycliffs handwritten  translated Bible circulated however illegally. But owner of  his translation were all accused of heresy and sentenced to death at the stake by burning.

William Tyndale born 1494 hated the Catholic Church banishment of the English Bible. he was also one of the few who understood Greek and Latin.  he also understood German. As England was Catholic and his life in danger, he fled to Germany.

In Germany there was a  Lutheran  German version of the New Testament available.

William made there in Germany a  new English translation of the Greek New Testament (NT) with  a language that everyone could understand. His NT  was printed in huge quantities in Antwerpen. As his NT fit  a small book it was easy for everyone to hold and also to smuggle to England.

“Studying the NT, William Tyndale came to denounce the practice of prayer to Saints. He understood that Man’s salvation from first to last depends on God alone. ” ( Source: Wiki )

William Tyndale was caught in Antwerpen, held in prison in Belgium and  sentenced 1535 to be burned to death in England. 

He finally was strangled to death while tied at the stake October 1536, and then his dead body was burned”.

15 years after his death the William Tyndale NT became legal because the King of England wanted to divorce but could do that only by becoming a Protestant.

The King James Bible is 90% William Tyndales translation.

See the story in this video:

Why

The Catholic church may have wanted to hide that

  • Jesus was a practicing Jew
  • Jesus never talked for a creation of a new religion
  • Parts of the NT were to remain hidden (Love your enemy”? to qallow the DCatholic church to kill)
  • Parts fo the NT were not historically correct (Some are fantasies written to support Catholic dogmas, especcially about the birth and youth of Jesus as I have talked about in previous posts)
  • parts of the NT were not correctly translated (like e.g. Greek “stauros” to “cross” instead of “pole” )

www.justforcatholics.org writes that

‘In early times, the Bible was read freely by the lay people, and the Fathers constantly encourage them to do so, although they also insist on the obscurity of the sacred text. No prohibitions were issued against the popular reading of the Bible. New dangers came during the Middle Ages. When the heresy of the Albigenses arose there was a danger from corrupt translations, and also from the fact that the heretics tried to make the faithful judge the Church by their own interpretation of the Bible. To meet these evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Tarragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required the bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of the Scripture, unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such readings was likely to prove beneficial.’

Read more  in https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernard-starr/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545.html 

I added this story to the top abuse of power list in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/04/16/abuse-of-power

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6. The difficult youth of Jesus.

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December 30.  Jesus is growing. He was not a normal boy and may have suffered during his childhood. This is excerpt 6 from  a  page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019.

This video is nice but Luke tells really a different story. Jesus is 12 year and is in the Temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them, and asking them questions. ( Luke 2:46  ) Mary and Joseph are there and are anxious after having searched  for him.  He

“49  replied, ‘Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?'”
This is the only text describing a young Jesus in the Gospels. You find it in  Luke 2:49

Jesus is not like other children his age, playing games with other childrens. In the film above I am reminded about a boy with Asperger.

How were his first 12 years? Did they ridiculed  him like they did years later when he was an adult? (Matthew 9: 24 )

He was a special boy, born by a unknown father. He probably did not look like his father.
Neighboors maybe  talked bad about him and his mother while their childrens listened.

Deuteronomy 23:2 supported such a treatment with this text:

HEB:  לֹא־ יָבֹ֥א מַמְזֵ֖ר בִּקְהַ֣ל יְהוָ֑ה
NAS: No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD

Jesus was special, he was intelligent. He may have therefore been  a treath for other envious weak childrens in the small village of Nazareth, children looking for respect and power. Like he was as an adult. 

If bullyism existed, he was a typical victim of bullyism. I wrote about bullyism in one of my pages.  As I documented there.  Famous  Henry Thomas alias “ET-boy” and Jack Lloyd, child actor in Star Trek suffered bullyism. Why not also Jesus?

Jesus may have been quantum entangled with God and therefore talked with the knowledge of God.  But when he talked about childrens he talked like on who knew how it is to be a child and what children most of all need.

This is how Jesus talked when “people  brought babies to him” and “the  disciples scolded them“:

16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not stop them; for it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. 17 In truth I tell you, anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.'” (  Luke 18:15-17 )

He knew what it meant for a children to be

  • ridiculed as he maybe himself probably was ridiculed by other childrens
  • he knew how important it was to love our childrens.
  • he knew how important the “love your enemy and pardon” strategy was  as he himself had tested it
  • he knew how weak childrens can be as he himself has felt that weakness.

I think that this video from the mormon channel, gives an idea of Jesus relation with childrens.

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4. The geneaology of Jesus

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December 25. The baby is born. This is excerpt 4 from  a  page about Jesus I am working with and will publish after Easter 2019.
It is time to share some facts about Jesus as told about by the Gospel of Matthew and Luke.

Geneaology of Jesus

Matthew and Luke describes the Geneaology of Jesus in different ways. You find a Maternal ancestry in Luke.  Luke’s genealogy is of Mary, with Eli being her father, while Matthew’s describes a paternal genealogy.

Matthew starts with Abraham, while Luke begins with Adam.
The lists are identical between Abraham and David (I marked these parts with green text), but differ radically from Jesus to David and from Abraham  backwards to Adam in Luke. ( I marked these text in red )

To make them comparable, I reordered so both start from Jesus.

According to Matthew 1:16
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According to Luke 3:23
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Jesus is
the son of Joseph,
the son of Jacob,
the son of Matthan,
15 the son of Eleazar,
the son of Elihud,
the son of Akim,
the son of Zadok,
the son of Azor,
the son of Eliakim,
13 the son of Abihud,
the son of Zerubbabel,
was the son of Shealtiel,
the son of Jeconiah[c] and his brothers
the son of Josiah,
the son of Amon,
the son of Manasseh,
Ahaz the son of Hezekiah,
Jotham the son of Ahaz,
9 Uzziah the son of Jotham,
Jehoram the son of Uzziah,
Jehoshaphat the son of Jehoram,
8 Asa the son of Jehoshaphat,
Abijah the son of Asa,
Rehoboam the son of Abijah,
7 the son of Rehoboam,
was the son of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife,
the son of King David.
the son of Jesse,
the son of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
the son of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
the son of Salmon,
he son of Nahshon,
the son of Amminadab,
the son of Ram,
the son of Hezron,
the son of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
the son of Judah and his brothers,
the son of Jacob,
2 was the son of Isaac,
Abraham
Jesus is
the son of Mary,
the son of Heli,
the son of Matthat,
the son of Levi,
the son of Melchi,
the son of Jannai,
the son of Joseph,
the son of Mattathias,
the son of Amos,
the son of Nahum,
the son of Esli,
the son of Naggai,
the son of Maath,
the son of Mattathias,
the son of Semein,
the son of Josech,
the son of Joda
the son of Joanan,
the son of Rhesa,
the son of Zerubbabel,
the son of Shealtiel,[a]
the son of Neri
the son of Melchi,
the son of Addi,
the son of Cosam,
the son of Elmadam,
the son of Er, 29
the son of Joshua,
the son of Eliezer,
the son of Jorim,
the son of Matthat,
the son of Levi
the son of Simeon,
the son of Judah,
the son of Joseph,
the son of Jonam,
the son of Eliakim
the son of Melea,
the son of Menna,
the son of Mattatha,
the son of Nathan,
the son of David
the son of Jesse,
the son of Obed,
the son of Boaz,
the son of Sala,
the son of Nahshon
the son of Amminadab,
the son of Admin,
the son of Arni,
the son of Hezron,
the son of Perez,
the son of Judah
the son of Jacob,
the son of Isaac,
the son of Abraham,
the son of Terah,
the son of Nahor
the son of Serug,
the son of Reu,
the son of Peleg,
the son of Eber,
the son of Shelah
the son of Cainan,
the son of Arphaxad,
the son of Shem,
the son of Noah,
the son of Lamech
the son of Methuselah,
the son of Enoch,
the son of Jared,
the son of Mahalaleel,
the son of Cainan
the son of Enos,
the son of Seth,
the son of Adam,
the son of God.”