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negationists and young humans are not safe from Covid-19

This video contains two Iatlian television interviews. One about a 60+ old negationist who got covid-19 and one about young boy who were intubated. Negationists take big riscs not only for themselves but also for their friends and relatives.

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Is Genesis God breathed?

Introduction

This post is the development of thoughts that I had in 2008. read these in http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2020/08/09/silent-women/

Paul said in Timothy 3:16:

“All Scripture is God-breathed ….”

JW following Paul have among their books, one with the title
All Scripture Is Inspired of God and Beneficial” https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101990061

A friend atheist of mine once said “The religion is an invention of the Devil”.

Evilness examples:

Woman attacked with acid.

Supported by the Bible Genesis and Paul that said that women must obey men who was created first.

One of many torture tools used with women.

Supported by the Bible Genesis that says that the woman listened to the devil

One of 100.000 Women accused to be a witch and condemned to be burned.

Supported by the Bible Genesis that says that the woman listened to the devil.

Child with Smallpox in Bangladesh.

Because Adam sinned according to the  Bible Genesis.

Many were accused to have sinned and were bullied.

How could God allow this?

Boy suffering leukemia
Because Adam sinned?
How could God allow this?

Vulture waiting for the starving boy to die.
Because Adam sinned according to the  Bible Genesis.

How could God allow this?

   

Jewish boys in German lager because “Jews killed Jesus”?

How could God allow this? 

 

A God Perception

God is per definition all-knowing

God if there is one, should, therefore, know the consequences of some stories spread by messengers/prophets to humans.

Stories like Moses Genesis, that caused so much pain and death can not be the words of a all-knowing God.

I shared my personal perception of God in:

It is of course not static.

homophobia and witchhunt

I have written about homophobia and witchhunt. I have often found a connection between evils around us and religions and messengers like Paul and others. I  saw that all evilness led me to the apostle Paus and Bible Genesis.

I have long thought about the consequences of the Genesis story. About all the women who have suffered and died probably because of this “God-breathed” story.

I thought about the masculine ideal of superiority being the “image of God”, about the masculine stereotyping and the discrimination of women in all kinds of activities during many centuries.

Reading the book “Chiara di Assisi” (Clare of Assisi) by Dacia Maraini that discusses the situation of women in Italy why teenage women who preferred to imprison themselves for up to 40 years in convent living in poverty and silence instead of suffering the domination of a husband in marriage.

The hypothesis came up that Moses, who is said to have written Genesis, may have been inspired by an evil inner voice when he wrote Genesis.

I rewrote 2 years ago a page called “The whispering of Iblis. See www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/04/24/iblis-whisperings/ when Mohammad was warded by Angel Gabriel to not listen to the whispering of Iblis, the devil.

I that is true, could maybe the Devil have inspired Moses?

I invite you to, first of all, read my page about bias and deities as it explains some concepts I use in my conclusions.

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Index

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Jesus and Paul about Genesis 1-2

Paul refers often to Genesis. But how is it with Jesus? 

Only in Matthew 19:4-6 you can listen to Jesus referring to Genesis 1:
“Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
“Haven’t you read,”
he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’?” So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

  • “Jesus obviously had read Genesis 1 and 2 because He’s quoting it .We don’t often think about Jesus reading the Old Testament, but He did.  As a well-taught Jewish boy in the first century, He would have gone through the normal Torah instruction all boys His age did.” Read more in isgenesishistory.com

But nothing is said about a woman wanting to divorce a man. And  when you marry a woman in Church, it is not God that has joined together but love. And love can die.

Paul and Genesis

If you instead look for Paul referring to Genesis 1 you find a lot of sites.

Max Doerksen wrote a thesis about “the use of Genesis in CORINTHIANS 11:16, EPHESIANS 5:21-33, AND 1 TIMOTHY 2:ll-15”  https://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/obj/s4/f2/dsk2/ftp03/MQ26819.pdf

He says on page 19 among others “We know that he was probably only using the Hebrew of Gen 2:18-25 as a point of reference…Paul begins with the theological statement and then builds his argument from there. This method of interpretation is known as a form of midrash. ” Haggadah midrash according to page 24

Page 22 continues with Paul is inquiring of God to find a solution to the problem of gender distinctions in worship, and he bases his solution on his understanding of Gen 2:21-23.”

Read more about Paul and Genesis in:

https://answersingenesis.org/the-word-of-god/apostle-pauls-use-genesis-13-romans-1/

Jesus never talked about women as inferior to the man as Eve was created from the rib of Adam and she listened to the devil. But Paul does.

Nor does Jesus talks about homosexuality.

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Moses and Genesis 1-2

Moses was most probably a good man. He did maybe listened to his inner voice conditioned by his biases. Also, several scientists like Cantor and Einstein seem to have done so. I have done so too. But who did talk to Moses? Could he distinguish between the voices? I have my doubts about that.

I am more and more convinced that that was not God or a good intelligent voice that talked to Moses. The devil may have inspired Moses with the Genesis story to Moses who believed in it because he didn’t know better and wrote it (many believes he did this) down as his first book.

The story about the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a strange one Why would God not allow humans to know about good and evil especially when created in the image of God? That tree story contradicts the fact that all humans have some kind of inner innate moral supported by bad and good conscience.
And God as all-knowing and loving would have known about the weakness of humans, a well-developed brain, having an obvious wish to know and distinguish between evil and good. Who would not?

God would therefore not have tempted these first human beings with some impossible obstacle, like a “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” ( Genesis 2:9 2:17)

The devil told that Eden was between Tigris and the Euphrates 2-14 something that was told differently to the prophet Mohammad. This Tigris story is one of the pillars of conflict between Science (among others anthropology) and Hebrews and Christians. God does not induce to evilness so God had no reason and intention to tempt nor confuse human beings and have many of them using reason, burned for heresy like e.g. Giordano Bruno.

The creation of a woman is another one evil leading story (Genesis 2:18) The woman to become  “a helper suitable for him”.

God that is a loving spirit, would never share a story that creates damage.

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An agnostic/atheist view of Genesis

I don’t know if this is a view from an agnostic or atheist. I think however that this answer to the question “What are some arguments supporting the claim that the biblical God is cruel?” shared by Nick L. in Quora is a excellent, great and clear analysis of Genesis:

  1. “He creates all the animals as male and female, but then he creates Adam all by himself with no female companion. Does that make any sense? What are his dangly bits for? Are they purely recreational?
  2. Adam and Eve are to live in Eden without the knowledge of Good and Evil. That means they have no moral compass- they must rely on God to tell them right and wrong.
  3. The kind-hearted Promethean snake helped them evolve by eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, giving them the intellectual ability to see the chains God put on them.
  4. God did not like that, so he punished them- punishment for the crime of being able to think for themselves.”

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Good looking story with evil consequences

if it was an evil voice to inspire Moses, the evil voice was able to tell the simplified story of the creation of the Universe (1:1-2:2) and the creation of human beings (2:7- ). These stories were easy enough to be understood by Moses and were in agreement with his confirmation bias and teleological biases and stereotypes among others 6000 years ago. It was fully acceptable for men who did not want to abandon their power over women.

With this in mind I went back, reading Genesis again to create this list of verses, allusions, and evil consequences:

  1. 1:27 So God created mankind (Hebrew haadam) in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

    • Wisdom 2:23for God created man for incorruption,
      and made him in the image of his own eternity,
    • Paul’s allusion to 1:27 in Colossians 1:15-17 about Jesus “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.”  Evil consequences: 
    • “Imago Dei” doctrine
      • woman discrimination
        “mankind in the image to God” view = the second part was often forgotten by mostly man. 

        Only men can become priests in the catholic church.
        Women never lead JW meetings.
        Women did not have the right to vote in many countries
         
  2. 2:18 “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.” +2:20 “for Adam no suitable helper was found.”
    • Paul’s allusion to 2:18 in Corinthian 11:9-10neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels.” Evil consequences: 
    • natural use of the woman” Paul in Romans 1:27 
      The use of a woman as an object for the pleasure and to make children.
    • Wife submission: married women obliged to do what the husband requests 
  3. 2:22-23 the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.”
    The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.””

    • Paul’s allusion to 2:22-23 in Corinthian 11:3: “I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man,” 
    • Paul’s allusion to 2:22-23 in Corinthian 11:7-9
       A man ought not to cover his head,For man did not come from woman, but woman from man;  neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. “
    • Paul’s allusion to 2:22-23 in Corinthian 14:34-35Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak but must be in submission, as the law says.   If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church”
    • Paul’s allusion to 2:22-23 in I Timothy 2.11-13 ”
      A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.  I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.  For Adam was formed first, then Eve.”
       

      • Evil consequences: 
        • woman discrimination – “man in the likeness to God” view = the man superior over the woman.
          Only men can become priests in the catholic church.
          Only men lead JW meetings
          Women did not have the right to vote in many countries. 
           
  4. 2:24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.”
    • Paul’s allusion to 2:22 and 2:24 in Corinthian 7:4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. “ 
    • Evil consequences: 
      • fornication concept – 
      • marriage dogmas and injustices
        • women obliged to marry men for conveniences and not for love and not able to divorce without being discriminated despite husband domestic abuse.
        • young girls being married to old men against their wish – whenever a man or family finds it convenient
        • marital rapes note being a crime – men’s right to use the husband’s body whenever wanted. 
        • homophobia supported by Paul Romans 1:18–32,-> theory of homosexuality or of lesbianism as a disease ( Don Carrega, Turin )  –  Jehovah witnesses: Homosexuality can be cured “we can help homosexuals by looking back at sexual abuse traumas many homosexuals suffered”
        • masturbation is a sexual immorality and sin to be confessed in Catholic church 
  5. 3.1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 
    • Evil consequences: 
      • Reptile indiscriminate killing. the human view of repitles and right to kill these despite they are an important part of the ecosystem eating rats and other =evilness against nature. 
  6. 3:4 You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman.”
    about eating from the tree. The devil shows knowledge about the soul.
     

    • Evil consequences: 
      • Demonology – Witchcraft & inquisition 
  7. 3:6 “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.” 
    • Evil consequences: 
      • Original sin doctrine
      • Body dogmas and taboos “flesh, and the devil as threats to the perfection of the soul” (John of the Cross)
      • the view of woman as allied to the devil is here “prooved”
      • reason to regard women as dangerous and to control women’s sexuality and knowledge, giving the right to burn them if they show knowledge and are therefore felt as a danger for man’s power.
        • Mortification of the flesh
          • Our healthy body is not a gift of God but something we can damage as we want except committing suicide.
        • sinful nature doctrine
        • whichhunt (Read more in witchhunt-in-europe)
        • Inquisistion. the book Malleus Maleficarum 1487 on how to fight witches and heresy and how to torture to get confession from women. (Lelio Finocchiaro in “”Briciole di storie” p 98)
  8. 2:25 “Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
    + 3:7 “Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.” 

    • Evil consequences: 
      • the vision of the body to be sinful and to be covered and suppressed – obliging naked indigenous people to wear clothes or otherwise give man right to rape or kill – the sexist perverse Christian view of sexuality as something dirty and sinful allowing murder in case a woman get in love with someone else or have sex.
      • homophobia (read more in fighting-homophobia)
      • sexuality myth and dogma. Read more in sexuality)

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Conclusions

Ǵod being all-knowing would know the consequences of this Bible Genesis story.

If God gave this story to  Moses then God reveals to be either ignorant for the consequences or does God reveal itself to be nasty beast having fun setting up rules that can not be followed by intelligent people wanting to use their brain and know more.

And with the punishment, even punishing the unborn, like Hitler made in the concentration camps.

If Genesis is God breathed then God is incredibly cruel.

It is not strange that many find God to be cruel and a psychopath. because that is the picture Genesis gives.

If Genesis was evil-breathed or conditioned by biases at Moses then we can have back our loving and forgiving God.

Only a devil or an evil God if it exists, would have wanted all this evilness. Not an all-knowing and forgiving God. 

So most probably, Genesis was written by a man with bad mood, stereotypes,  unconsciousness biasconfirmation bias, and teleological bias

Genesis must be rewritten

But this implies that we need a new Genesis. A Genesis that tells us that maybe…

“God decided several tensors and rules (probability and others)  and started several Evolutions with very small building blocks.

”Source:  www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNVQfWC_evg minute 33)

These evolutions (nucleosynthesis, stellar, organic, biologic, cultural) finally ended up us having a brain on Earth, to be used taking care of ourselves and our planet.

  • If we don’t do our best, we will learn from our experiences. We won’t solve our problems by praying to God or Saints or project all our guilt on women (as we have done for centuries) or  deities like a Devil.” (Read about the details in this page )
    • The Christian religion that is based on the Genesis story, is therefore indirectly based on evil.
  • A few exceptions.
    • The Bible Genesis may have not had the same evil impact on Hebrew and Samaritan communities. 
    • Mohammad got a different story about the Creation that did not have the same evil consequences. We must remember that extremist Muslims are known to not have followed instructions in the Quran, like Moses law “Do not kill”. 

When I wrote my illuministic Genesis it was obvious for me to take inspiration from the  Quranic version of the Creation and to what Science tells us.

Is God cruel?

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Introduction

Look at this image taken 1993 by Kevin Carter in Sudan. Do you remember it? I do.

(Photo source: http://100photos.time.com/photos/kevin-carter-starving-child-vulture#photograph )

That was 1993. But This is just one “tiny” example of a suffering  child. Unicef says:

“Malnutrition rates remain alarming”

(Source: https://data.unicef.org/topic/nutrition/malnutrition/ )

About the photos above, can you imagine yourself having superpower to just stay there like a photographer, waiting for the vultur to start choping  the powerful beak into the childs body to slowly eat its flesh?  I Absolutely not. Could you? Carter the photgrapher “scared the vulture away”. What did God?

(Source: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/303218987389436908/ )

If God is what Christians and Muslim believes, God must indeed be cruel. Muslims says “God decides ove everything that happens in our lives. So If children suffer, God allows that to happen????

I were overwhelmed by these thoughts. I dedicate this post to this difficult issue.

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Suffering children

Children around the world suffer not only from malnutrition. Here are two main sources of pain for children:

  • LEUKEMIA
    the “most common types of cancer among children are leukemias” Leukemia is a extremely painful form of cancer. (Source: www.cancer.gov/types/childhood-cancers/child-adolescent-cancers-fact-sheet ) Science is developing new methods to fight this form of cancer. But who will benefit of these cares? For sure not the children that happened to be born in poverty.
  • CHILD ABUSE
    A lot of  children suffer from child abuse in all kind of forms, in family or in comunities. 

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    Miracles

    I wrote about miracles in 

    www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2019/08/04/jesus-miracles-2/

  • Many say they have been cured by miracle. the mother of Saint Lucia was. Why should only children with rich parents benefit of miracles today, eg by traveling to Santiago de Compostela?if God were doing miracles at the time of Jesus and does now, it should be more than ever motivated to do it today with all the innocent poor childrens around the world in countries in war or fighting with starvation, thirst and sickness. 

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God and children

 

Do you remember these words of Jesus?

” Jesus called a little child to himself, and set him in their midst, and said, “but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him that a huge millstone should be hung around his neck, and that he should be sunk in the depths of the sea.” (Matthew 18:02-03 )

Why does a God that loves children, is everywhere, allseing and omnipotent, allow children to suffer? Why does God not intervene helping suffering childrens?

Adults are expected to believe and pray. If you do, God may heal and help you doing a miracle. But small babies and childrens? We can’t expect them to believe, be good Christians, Muslims or whatever.

Einstein said once that he does not believe in a God that intervene in his own creation, He accepted  a God as descibed by Spinoza.

I thought, I am on the way to become a atheist that does not believe in the existence of God? I were overwhelmed.

I wrote about God perception in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/about-god/ but never added the atheists perception of a cruel God.

  • is it that there is no God intervening and making miracles like Einstein said once?
  • or maybe there was a God at the beginning like Nietzsche said with his word that now “God is dead”

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Conclusion

I am a retired teacher and have worked with hundreds of young pupils, many of them with traumatizing experiences of war and violence. 

Thinking about how children still suffer i were overwhelmed by a crisis in my faith. But working with this post I am partly back on track.

I believe God is expecting *us* to solve the problems in this world. We have been given a brain, intelligence and empathy to do that. If God always eould interveen in every human crisis we would learn nothing.

Apocalypse says  we will be back at the original time of Adam and Eve  at the Resurrection, with a immortal body that never dies and gets sick.  But what is the meaning of that kind of life? There would be no childrens, nephews playing around and to follow, while they grow up. I like the life on this Earth and see no happiness in a life after resurrection without children and with a lot of 1000+ years old methusalems.

Our Earth would become like a garden with everything working (growing etc) by itself. When you want to eat, you go out in the garden like to the store. Simply boring living in a vegetative state together with angels.

The new world like it is described in the Holy books would be a life like our indigeneous lived in the jungle  or in the Pacific before the white man came in and destroyed. They worked maybe 6 hours a day to get food. The rest of their time was consumed in the hammock making decorations and looking at the apes that jumped around in the threes above or at the Palm trees.

Oops. I am in a paradigm shift in my view of life.

I still believe however there is something called God, a God I perceive like a kind voice giving good advices. And I follow Jesus advices and teaching.

I ended up this “flight” of faith, reviewing the life before the collaps of Eden in the Middle East and a life after Resurrection. More about this in a future post.

To my question Is God cruel I say: 

“No. God is expecting us to take care of this Earth.”

 

 

Virgin Mary and Jesus

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introduction

I decided to split this post into two pages, one dedicated to Mary and one to Jesus. They will hopefully be published at the end of November.

Almost everyone  in this world knows about about the Christian belief that  Jesus was born from virgin Mary. But not many knows that this is also told about in the Quran.

There are contradiction in both the Christian belief as well as in the Muslim one. I will discuss these in this article.

  • Many Christians says that Jesus is God,
    but he (God?) was tempted by the devil in the desert,
    while Jesus in the Gospel several times talked about God as his father and mentioned God with the name Elohim asking why God abandoned him.
  • Muslims on the other hand, believe that Jesus is just a prophet and not a son of God nor God. 
    while Jesus was born from virgin Mary from a unknown father

    and Jesus made miracles only a God per definition should be able to do.

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Jesus (Isa)

The name “Jesus, son of Mary” written in Arabic calligraphy,
followed by “peace be upon him.” بلال الدويك
(  Source: https://www.vox.com  )

Did Jesus exist?

I have never had any doubt about  that, after reading the Gospel and the Quran about Jesus and what happened in the Roman Empire after the spreading of his messages and information about his life and death.  But many  atheists question the existence of  Jesus as among others he is not mentioned by the many normally very precise Roman Empire historians like e.g.   Herodotus  and Tacitus.

Is Jesus God ?

John 10:30 ” reports that Jesus said “I and the father are one” But does that mean Jesus said “I am God” I strongly doubt that as he often talked about God as his father (for me “father” can be understood as “my Creator”). I would rather read “I and the father ” like “I and God are soulmates” or like “I am a image of God”. But this is valid for all of us, not only Jesus.

I could myself say “my dog  and I and are one.”  like being soulmates  but that doesn’t mean that I am a dog.

Muslim arguments against

Muslim sources refer to the fact that Jesus was tempted by the devil in the desert and God/Allah would never allow that or Satan would never be able to do that as God  has more power than Satan. 

Presuming that  Christians are right , that Jesus really is God, ” the devil in the desert temptation” story could be a way for God  to warn us humans  “Be careful of the Whisperings of the Devil.

Jesus entangled to Allah.

Muslims and Christians agree however that  Jesus could do miracles. Jesus could  according to the Gospels, see things only Allah could (e.g. people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem ) when he was outside Jerusalem.

Aboutr Jesus being god, the Muslim are right in their arguing that a God would not be “tempted” by the devil as Jesus was in the desert. Quran 17/111 says ““and not is for him a partner in his dominion”  Muslims conclude therefore hat “Jesus is therefore not God.”

Wala yakur Lahu sharikun by al mulki
“and not is for him a partner in his dominion”

Jesus  certainly did not meant that he and God were partner in the dominion”. Everything was done with the permission of God, Jesus worshipped many times.

But Muslims recognize Jesus was the only one who could make miracles.

Some miracles show that  Jesus may have been “quantum entangled” with Allah, thinking that Jesus could see things only Allah could (e.g. see people and donkeys moving around in Jerusalem when he was outside, know names and story of the Samaritan woman etc.).

Maybe Jesus in his “Me and my father are one” talked in the sense of being able to do miracles, have divine sight and knowledge and have the same goals. I understand from the Gospels and Jesus praying that God decided over Jesus.

Is Allah the father of Jesus ?

Who is the biological father of Jesus.  that is whose mans DNA did Jesus inherit? of course not Gods.  Quran 112/3 say

He neither begets nor is born,

And quran.com/17/111 says that Allahhas not taken a son 

When Jesus talked about “his father” he of course didn’t intend “my biological father that shared with me his DNA” I presume Jesus looked at God as a “spiritual father”a father in the sense of  his Creator in the whomb of Mary. The quran never specifies the kind of sonship.

Muslims correctly claims Jesus was not Gods son in the biological sense of the word. But since Muslims recognize that mary was virgin who is the biological father of Jesus? 

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Jesus miracles

In the Quran we can read about Mary and Jesus:

” And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds. ( Quran 21:91 )

And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit.” ( Quran 2:87 )

Gods Miracle

The Quran mentions a few miracles miracles. Like  this one about the table where Jesus asks Allah for a miracle, talked about in mentioned in  www.islamreligion.com :

“When the disciples said: O Jesus, son of Mary!  Is your Lord able to send down for us a table spread with food from heaven?  He said: Observe your duty to God, if ye are true believers.  They said: We desire to eat of it and our hearts be at rest, and that We may know that you have spoken truth to us, and that We may be witnesses thereof.  Jesus, son of Mary, said: ‘O God, our Lord, send down for us a Table laden with food out of heaven, that shall be for us a recurring festival, the first and last of us, and a miracle from You.  And provide us our sustenance, for You are the best of providers!” ( Quran 5:112-114 )

Jesus miracles with Gods/Allahs permission.

The Quran clearly tells the Jesus does miracles always with Allahs permission.

In a( Quran 3:49 ) you read:

And [make him] a messenger to the Children of Israel, [who will say], ‘Indeed I have come to you with a sign from your Lord in that I design for you from clay [that which is] like the form of a bird, then I breathe into it and it becomes a bird by permission of Allah . And I cure the blind and the leper, and I give life to the dead – by permission of Allah . And I inform you of what you eat and what you store in your houses. Indeed in that is a sign for you, if you are believers.  

I have not seen this in the Gospel.In a( Quran 3:49 ) above Jesus brings life to a claybird like God did creating Adam.

Read more in (Source: www.islamreligion.com )

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The sacrifice of Jesus

Morgan Freeman talks about the death and resurrection of Jesus  in his video “The story of God”

The doctrin of Christianity is that “Jesus died on the cross for the   sins of humans. If we accept this your will be saved” a explanation noone ever could give me acceptable explanation of. Why should Jesus suffer such a dead for our 21th century humans sins? All sinners the cause  of the horible death of Jesus? It sounds like God condemned jesus to death because we were the sinner.

Muslims do not accept that Jesus was killed as “Allah would not have permitted that a messenger like Jesus  would have been treated like that”. I supported for long time this idea a s there is a tomb in Srinagar, India that supports it.

  I have found however another explanation why Allah let Jesus die like this. I have:

Two hypothesis about Jesus martyrdom

  1. God let Jesus offer himself as a redemption for for the evilness of human beings and  the suffering  human beings havde experienced, a suffering and evilness  that is a integrated part of Gods human creation.  Animals does not suffer death and evilness in the same way as we do. God as alknowing and perfectly knew that humans with such a brain  were susceptible to the whispering of the devil  and prone to be terribly evil. The angels argued about that with God according to the Quran. But the offering may have have had also a second  purpose:
  2. Jesus became a example for many of those Christians to become martyrs in the Roman empire. Without his offer, would we maybe today still venerate Roman Gods.

Thanks to Jesus good example of accepting and tollerating suffering,  poor Christians in Rome were able to met  horrible tortures and death with extreme courage, a courage that impressed even Roman soldiers so strongly that some of them and even a Legion  onverted to Christianity and became themselves martyrs. 

A Christian church inside a Roman army fortress in Megiddo, Israel was discovered in the 1990’s.

Cleaning the Megiddo Mosaic
                                                                      Cleaning the Megiddo Mosaic

The small church was created from a back room in the fortress by Christian soldiers stationed there. The fortress served as the military headquarters of the Legio II Traiana (“Trajan’s legion”) and Legio VI Ferrata (“Ironclad Legion”). Maybe even these two legions were slaughtered. (Source: earlychurchhistory.org )

Whatever happened with Jesus or whatever the reason of his martyrdom were, them the most important is that Jesus gave us good ethical rules to become good humans and be able to met evil in a successful way (” Do not judge and love your neihbor and enemy”). Thanks to Jesus we have today many good examples of  kindness and love around the world as well as good behaviour fighting evilness like  with “passive resistance“. Following Jesus  example and messages we  have better possibility to be resurrected for a happier life.

Did Jesus die on a cross or on a stake?

This is really an  irrelevant question. But I explain below the reason iigive this question so much space.

Crucifixion was such a gruesome and humiliating way to die that the subject was somewhat of a taboo in Roman culture, and few crucifixions were specifically documented. One of the only specific female crucifixions we have documented is that of Ida, a freedwoman (former slave) who was crucified by order of Tiberius.” (Source: Wiki  )

Some say that the cruxifixion and hand nailing of Jesus is prooved by the schroud in torino, Italy.

But the examination of it shows that “Blood pattern analysis (BPA) of the blood marks on the Shroud of Turin show that they are non-realistic.”

The cross/stake question is interesting as its  answer reveals how the Gospels  like the old testament have been erroneously translated from Greek. The Witnesses of Jehovah talk a lot about this,   to explain why the  jehovahs-witnesses doesn’t worship  images  of Jesus on a cross. They say that the “Bible indicates that Jesus did not die on a cross but rather on a simple stake.”  (source: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101989219 )

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Erroneous translation in all the Gospels.

The Jehovahs witness looks to be be correct. You can see this “stake-cross” mistranslations in all the Gospels.

You find all these mistranslations googleing with the text
cross /site:biblehub.com/interlinear

or with
“crucified /site:biblehub.com/interlinear”

My Lutheran priest here in Sweden aknowledged that this mistranslating is a fact. I decided  therefore to “amputate” my  golden cross to resemble a pole.

I have however now to the idea that Jesus had  to carry the horizontal beam (patibulum in Latin) to the place of execution, but not the whole cross as it is to heavy. Jesus tied to the horizontal beamand was appended  on a stake so it looked like a  T as Morgan Freeman illustrates it in his video  “The story of God” from minutes 17:40.

 

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Conclusions

For me it is enough that Jesus is a prophet, a prophet that could do miracles. like the Muslims believe.

Jesus is not God for me. God decides over all of us, even Jesus.

We are all sons of God in a metaphorical sense as God created us all.

of course God does not get children in the biological meaning of it.

I believe in the miracles as I think that God can do anything, like he created the Universe.

there are a lot of misunderstanding between different religions as believers have their own conception of things. We must do our best to understand each other and to achieve this the only solution is dialog.

 

Creation believes

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Introduction

I digged into the Christian and Muslim creation believes as well as studying the Scientists prevailing creation hypothesis today. This study led me to write  what I call a enlightened Genesis that infuse a Scientific idea of a creation with a theological (Christian and Muslim Creation sacrd texts). I wrote it with the idea of what God would have shared today to a prophet, a prophet and a humanity that understand  things we didn’t understand 6000 years ago. 

I still update it. I got a occasion to do it after 

Swedish television shared in svtplay.se the Morgan Freeman documentary the story of God cut into two pieces “1. “The creation” and “2. What is God?”. You are able to see the svtplay contents if you get a Swedish IP. You can get one  with an account in ovpn.se. I use it when I am in Italy. His docs are melted into one in his The Story of God in Youtube also available in German unfortunenately with the Creation ideas cut out leaving the afterlife part i also wrote about in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/01/24/life-afterlife/ .

I am especially interested in the creation stories around the world Freeman  talks about In the svtplay doc part 1 . I will document about this in this article.

Index

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Creation believes

Bible and science

Marcelo Sanchez Sorondo, popes chief Science representative  ( http://www.pas.va created 1603 with Galileo Galilei as the first generation leader and George Le Maître a 19th century member) said among others:

The Bible is not a scientific idea of the Creation” 
The Bible is an idea of he Creation in a theological sense”

“The Big Bang is not and has nothing to do with the Creation”

The Catholic church does not see anymore the Bible as the literal description of the Creation”

The Franciscan brothers in Jonsered, Göteborg  told about the same. The Genesis is telling about Gods involvement in the Creation, not how God created it.

It is interesting to compare this pontifical view (“theological creation”) with the Jehovas Witness view in https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102010234  where they analyze the Bible texts very  carefully and dismantle Christian Creationist literalists view.

Giuseppe Tanzella Nitti ( http://www.tanzella-nitti.it  ) editor in chiedf of http://inters.org/ said: “The creation from a theological point of view is perfectly compatible  with Big Bang Because you always need a first cause. God, the  creator, is outside space-time, is before any time. The act of Creation is a never last acting, because the Creation is the way God continuously holds the Universe.”
Thi is very similar to a Muslim Creation idea.

Freemans concludes with:“God, the master of space and time.”

Mayan genesis

The Maya Corn God Huhnapu is tricked to go to the underworld. But once there  he was beheaded.

The twin sons set of to rescue him from the underworld. To get there they had to  be burned to ash.  As their ash got down to the subterranean  waters, the hero twins regenerated.

The Hero Twins swimmed back with their father Huhnapus head

The twins returned to Earth and the twin heoes  started the Creation process by planting their fathers head like a seed in the ground.

This was the first corn seed the Maya people were created with:

The center of heaven

the center of heaven for the Mayan people is in the middle of the  constellation of Orion 

In the middle of the triangle there is a nebula, a cosmic cloud of star creation.

A Maya ritual today is to place three stones and in the middle of it light a ritual fire. The three Orion stars are still important for them.

This reminds me about the Christian Trinity, God, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

( Source: tstephenoca.com )

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Hinduism

Hinduism has another idea of Creation.

Ganges

Ganges or Ganga, the mother Ganga, is the center of the whole Universe. Ganga is one of the millions of Hindu Gods

In the beginning, Ganga floated in the Heavens (in the Milky way) but was held captured by the creator God Brahma.

Brahma decided to send Ganga down to Earth.

But Ganga is so Powerful so it can drown the whole Earth.

God Shiva blocked Gangas fall, gathering the water in her hair making it streaming like a river that became Ganges.

Hindus believes in cycles of Creation. The primordial creation happened 8.6 billion years ago

Brahma created the Universe.

Aarti

In the ritual called “aarti”, taking place every year on the banks of Ganges.  Hindu thanks the God for the existence offering lights to the Gods. Their prayer says:

“God you are like my father, you are like my mother. My whole existence is you,  I am like a shadow, I am a vessel that contains you”

This is o similar to the Christian view that God has a temple inside everyone of us. So nice “I am a vessel that contains you, God”

Seven priests offer seven elements to Ganga:

  1. water,
  2. air
  3. earth in the form of flowers
  4. light, that repesent our souls.

“Let Ganges bring the vessel with my soul where it is good for me.”

Rwanda

In Rwanda there is a different Creation belief.

In the beginning there was neither existence nor non existence, beyond human definition and human intellect.

Aborigene genesis

According to aranda aboriginal oral traditions all begun in the  basin called  Tnorala 160 km west of Alice Springs. Tnorala was formed from a metheor impact 142.5±0.8 million years ago . Tnorala is today registered as a sacred site. (Source https://arxiv.org/pdf/1306.0278.pdf   ). 

(  Image source:  olleqvennerstedt.blogspot.com  )

Aranda people say that all started in the dreamtime when the Sky Gods were in the Milky way. Women dansed at a ceremony. One of the women put her baby in a wood baby craddle. The milky Way started to shake and the women lost the craddle that fell down to Earth. From that impact life started and soon thereafter men and women were created.

Aranda people tradition is to say hello to the ancenstors when entering Tnorala.

Other intresting information given

Adams grave in Jerusalem

All know that Adam ( Adam=Man in Hebrew) was according to the Bible created in Eden between Eufrat and Tigris. In the documentary, a  but he died according to a tradition in Jerusalem under Golgata where everyone can visit Adams chapel according to Jody Magness, archaeolog.

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Quran

The creation of human beings – Adam

This is what I know about Islam. Adams was accordinng to the Quran , created in Heaven and had to descend to Earth when he did not obey Allah. He became the fist prophet according to Islam.
I were inspired by the Quranic Adam in my article  “enlightened Genesis”  and added Quranic sources in it.

The Bible doesn’t say about Adams life after Eden. Nor does the Quran. Adam may really have died in Jerusalem as we get know by Morgan Freeman. It is interesting that the oral tradition says that Adam resurrected when Jesus blood from over his grave  touched him.

The Creation of the Universe

The Quran says “And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.”
quran.com 51:47  )

“Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, then We separated them, and made from water every living thing?  Then will they not believe?” ( Quran 21:30 )

Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, “Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion.” They said, “We have come willingly.” ( Quran 41:11 )

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Conclusion

Morgan concludes:

“Our believes doesn’t have to divide us”
“They have the power to unite us.”

I hope that my enlightened  Genesis will help out with this, despite being a total paradigm shift.

I got in among other Youtube comments where I am active,  a few blackout reactions.  Paradigm shifts can be difficult and painful.  I respect that. Some people where probably reluctant to a pluralistic view being themselves maybe dogmatic atheists or whatever. But rereading my genesis a few times, will they maybe understand better. Paradigm shifts require time.

أَذَان – Adhan

I like the statement of Morgan above. I think that working for religious tollerance and the spreading of inter-religious knowledge like Morgan does, the Pope Franciscus talks about and practice, praying together in like prayers doen together like Paul organized in Assissi or with call to prayer in Churches (أَذَان – Azan –  Adhan ) , we can achieve that maybe one day.

The dhurches being often closed here in Sweden I pray often like a Muslim as I write about in http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/08/01/praying-like-a-muslim/ 

I learned to recite Al-Fatihah and  feel very well with praying Salat.

The resurrection

The Bible and the Quran (repeatedly) reminds us that a Resurrection is to come.

The day of Resurrection, I am pretty sure we will know  a loving and forgiving (“7millionx77 million”) and tollerant  God

  • A God that does not discriminate,
  • a God talks to all of us,
  • a God that loves all humans regardless of origins, culture and religion,
  • a God that loves humans who are kind and practice love
  • according to the prophets, whatever prophet and religion we followed.

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My holy books -Being interreligious

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Introduction

I wrote about my pluralistic approach before in

http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2017/09/18/religious-pluralism/.

Since then, I added Buddhism in my religious library. Now I am wondering Am I lost somewhere? I will try to resume my opinions about the different books and believes here in this post.

This is my library
(the Bible is missing in this photo)

I think it is very important that children learn about all the main religions in the World as they do in Sweden.  Dan Dennet says trhis in this Ted below. But his main issue is the “evolution of Religions”.

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Bhagawad-Gita

I shhould have had the Bible there in the photo instead of Bhagawad-Gita. I will explain why.
Actually the only part  that I use from this book is the knowledge about Avatara – the incarnation of Good (4:7d ) I don’t know much more about this Hindu scripture book. I am actually not  interested about learning more. I were told some by a Indian student explaining a little bit about the Indian God incarnations on a flight from Berlin to Catania this summer. Morgan Freeman gave me a lot more knowledge about Hinduism in his documentary about God.

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In the Buddha’s Words.
An Anthology of Discources from the Pali
Canon.

I became interested in this book in my recent Buddhist phase and studies. My son bought it at Amazon and I asked if he could give it to me and  buy another one together with “The Tibetan Book of the Dead” that a friend of hours (believe or not) enjoyed.  🙂
I am happy to to have this book as I am now able to read myself  more about Buddhism with this book. I will soon come back to “The Human Condition” part of this book, discussing the life and death issue in it in a comparison with the Zoroastrian ethics and  Christian words about hell.

Read this from page 30

I hope to find time read more in this book.

Gathas, the Holy Songs of Zarathushtra

A good friend of mine introduced me into Zoroastrism and helped me get this book. Zoroastrianism is the first monotheistic religion that was among others  misinterpreted by Mohamad who most probably was desinformed and believed that Zoroastrians in Iran adored the fire in so called fire temples.

There is a  letter about this between Mohamad and theChosroes/Khusraw, the Emperor  of Persia.  The letter is also mentioned in https://iranian.com archive with details I did not know about.
Muhamad letters is not a permissive and tollerant one:

This letter is from Muhammad (saw), the Messenger of God, to Chosroes, the Chief of Iran. Whoever submits to a perfect guidance, and believes in Allah, and bears witness that Allah is One, and has no equal or partner, and that Muhammad (saw) is His Servant and Messenger, on him be peace.  O King, under the command of God, I invite you to Islam. For I have been sent by God as His Messenger sa to all mankind, so that I may warn all living men and complete my Message for all unbelievers. Accept Islam and protect yourself from all afflictions. If you reject this invitation, then the sin of the denial of all your people will rest on your head. “

I read somewhere years ago  that the Emperor answered invane that they indeed  believed in one God. But this was maybe a Zoroastrian version of the story.

The Iranian.com archive version of the story , justifies instead the persecution of Zoroastrians and the invasion of Persia.  The Iranian.com archive  has  a slightly different version of Muhammads letter, mentioning Magians.(see the mail and the full story below) This  version tells about an intollerant emperor of Persia looking at Muhammad as a slave to be killed for his “outrageous” letter.  Whatever is true, this iranian.com story probably explains how the war of Muhamad against the  Emperor and Zoroastrianism started  and finally led to the Zoroastrian persecution and diaspora to India.

Many Zoroastrians especially refugees and their descendants from Iran,  could never  forgive the Muslims for that.

Purpose of life according to Zoroastrian believe

I like this “the purpose in life is to “be among those who renew the world. To make the world progress towards perfection iIts basic maxims include: Humata, Hukhta, Huvarshta, which mean: Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds.” ( wiki )

Scan from my book  from song 47, vers 1-3

Read more at http://www.zoroaster.com

The Tibetan book of the dead

I dont know how I came over this book. I probably  thought this was the main  book of the Budhists. I started to read “Signs of dead” and “Ritual averting of signs of near and remote death.” telling e.g. about what to do with powders of iron and cupper if ones urine vapour is blackish and putrid (a sign of coming deat).  That was not really what I wanted to know about and looked for.  🙂 Maybe I have to read other parts instead like “introduction to awareness” or “daily practices”. “the great liberation of hearing” may also be interesting as I have had problems with hearing with my stroke related mental fatigue . I will maybe be back to read these parts. For now the book is part of my library.

The Bible

The Bible that is missing in the photo above, is a book that I do not accept as is. I do not like those parts that tells how to act with  “bad deeds” and “bad thoughts” like e.g about how to stone your daughter outside your house.  Deuteronomy 22:13-21 
How many times have I not heard about how a mariage night ending with mens showing up bed white sheets in Sicilian villages.  If there was no blood found, I never heard about lapidation  but only about direct resolution of the marriage with a lot of shame for the womans family in the villages.

Read more about stoning at http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.se/2006/09/biblical-justice-everybody-must-get.html

I have never heard these parts be read during catholic masses. I almost nerve read the old testament. I prefer the new testaments With Jesus  telling “Trow the stone who is without sin” John 8:7-11) and “Love your enemy” ( Matthew 5:44 ) Reading the Gospels has helped me a lot several times. I wrote about hate recently in another post. mentioning verses in Matthew5:43-44 and Syrach 27:30.

The Quran

The story how I came into reading the Quran and studying Arabic is closely related to my work as a math and Science teacher in a suburb area school were many of the pupils have Muslim background and came to Sweden after the Muslim diaspora in the Balcan and later came during  Isis persecution and war.

Image result for 9/11I listened to pupils shortly  after the 9/11 talking among themselves about  “Holy war”. I got an example of a Quran translated in Swedish by aAhmadiyya muslim belonging to http://karlekforallahatmotingen.se/.He told me that the Qurans messages is clear about loving and rejects war and hatred.
https://www.whyislam.org/jihad-2/what-does-islam-say-about-terrorism/ tries to  show taht the Qu’ran does not accept terrorism. but https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.asp  makes gives another picture. Searching for ” kill ” in www.searchtruth you find the word 133 times in different forms while ” love ”  appears 64 times.

Jesus with his extremely intelligent strategy “love your enemy and pardon 7×77 times” to get peace is my lex divina. Every time I find killing as a strategy in the Quran I do see those verses as results of restricted human reasoning, intelligence or maybe translation.  I wonder if Allah really meant “kill” with the word qätilu in Qu’ran 2:191 I doubt that if that was Allah talking and not Sheitan wispering. “My Lord! I seek refuge with You from the whisperings (suggestions) of the Shayatin (devils). ” ( Quran 23:97   )

For what can killing lead to if not more pain, dear and destructiveness?

A few ears later a pupils threatened me to throw a 1 dm big piece of ice  on me as he thought I offended the Quran. He asked for pardon as he said he mistaked me with another teacher.

i read a lot in this Quran book I was  given searching knowledge about the true Islam. I foudn no mention about I started to inform myself about what is said in “Holy war” in this translation.

Image resultI also attended a seminar for teachers here in Göteborg with Jan Östen Hjärpe a Swedish Islamicist and a professor emeritus in Islamic studies at the Centre for Theology and Religious Studies at Lund. He  explained how Muslims read The Hadith and there find testimony about the life of Muhamad.

the Hadith

I started to read in the Hadith but stopped shortly after having read about Muhamed and his letting a 9 year old girl (Ed. Aisha ) , enter his house and the description of his toilet practices with warm stones in the desert (read more in

http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=6096

I left the Hadith as I could not see the Hadiths to be books containing  messages of God. I also understood that fanatic islamists support their evil actions on the testimonials of the Hadiths. I have also read about Pakistan Muslims defending there desire  in marrying 9 year old girls referring to the Hadiths testimonial of Aisha in Sahih Bukhari.

This is was Aisha herself told about the relation with Muhamad.

“The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.”
( Source: Hadith Sahih Bukhari 5:58 that for some reason is not readable  in http://ahadith.co.uk/sahihbukhari.php  ) Read more  bout this story in https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/sep/17/muhammad-aisha-truth

I decided to go back reading the Quran and stay there.

We got a new  colleague a few years ago who emigrated from Syria. She talked Aramaic. I was reminded about Jesus that is said to have talked Jewish Aramaic. I learned from this colleague that Aramaic is part of the semitic language family together with Arabic.

I was reminded about the very special experience I made attending a Catholic mass in aramaic in franciskus-jonkoping.net  many  years ago. I decided thererfore to learn Classic Arabic using the Quran as reading book. I now can recite Al Fatiha the frist Quranic Surah and hopefully  soon be able to write it down too. I write about my learning Arabic in www.kinberg.net/arabic/

While teaching my seventh grade students about the Evolution theory with focus on the evolution of Homo sapiens I learned about the Islamic Paradise and Adam. I have based my  Unified creation theory upon the Islamic Adam as is written about in the Quran.

Reading about Isis killing Christians, I discovered and used www.searchtruth.com to find were it is written about Jesus in the Quran. I were informed by a former student of mine that Jesus son of Mary (“Isa ibn Maryam” in the Quran) is one of the biggest prophets in Islam and the only prophet that could make miracles with the support of Holy Spirit. Look for the word Jesus in searchtruth to see yourself the number of appearances in the Quran.. Look also for Ruh-ul-Qudus (the holy Spirit that Jesus was supported with (Quran 2:87 )

I have found different parts with ethical rules that tells about good deeds and good words and what happens if you do not follow these.

And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner, inviting them to Islamic Monotheism with His Verses), except with such of them as do wrong; and say (to them): “We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our Ilah (God) and your Ilah (God) is One (i.e. Allah), and to Him we have submitted (as Muslims).”  ( Quran 29:46  )

In contradiction the the verse above seems these three  verses translated into English to be if you do not read it carefully with good mind:

Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. (Quran 9:29 )

“And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. (Quran 2:190 ).”

And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out…(Quran 2:191 )

There are several words in these three verses,  whose implication  have to be carefully thought about:

  • fight
  • Messenger
  • “in the Way of Allah”
  • transgress and transgressors
  • kill

“Islam allows using weapons to defend yourself”

I got really upset with this statement,  in Swedish written “Islam tillåter endast strid i självförsvar” made by a  Ahmadiyya  Imam in http://debattcentrum.se/2017/08/28/islam-tillater-endast-strid-sjalvforsvar/ as an interpretation of the three verses above. I deeply dislike the statement above as it as is, does not exclude anything in the definition of “defend yourself”.  Self defence may be  read by some as

  • “killing a journalist or an artist who supposedly offends Islam” or
  • “killing  any citizen  living according to  Western costums” or
  • “kill a Christian because of wearing a cross.

Not knowing  that

  • 29:46 was written to keep peace between Jews, Christians and Muslims.
  • Christians and Muslim have shared churches hundreds of years in Sicily, Spain decoring them with mosaic
  • Muslims allowed Christians to keep their churches and go there in Jerusalem in the early Muslim days
  • Muslims tollerated other religions in the first Islamic caliphate.
  • Christians were invited to Islam not with death treath but with tax reliefs. Converted Christians, did not have to pay taxes. A fact that explains the fast growth of the first calliphate in North Africa and the south of Europe.

Meaning of “Fight”

Dos fight (qätilu) both in 9:29 and 2:190  mean killing as the Ahmadiyya Imam Kashif Virk and many Isis symphathizer translates it (“strida” in Swedish is  making war or kill) . “Kill” comes in 2:191 after 2:190 and not after  9:29. “You shall not kill” is the message  teh Islamic messenger Moses brought to us from Allah. I think we must avoid killing as much as possible.

Screenshot taken from Quran Tafsir  pro app I very oftenuse in my Quran reading.

Meaning of Messenger

what does the Quran verse above (9:29) mean with Messenger? Is Muhamed (PBUH) the only messenger? Read this verse:

(2) And indeed, We gave Musa (Moses) the Book and followed him up with a succession of Messengers. And We gave ‘Îsa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus” ( Quran 2:87 )

Keeping   ( Quran 29:46  ) fresh in mind, I would translate 9:29 and 2:190 like this

Fight  with good words and good manners (Ed. according to  ( Quran 29:46  ), those  who do not follow the laws given trough his messengers, Moses, Jesus and Muhamed (Ed. according to 2:87 ).

“Transgress” translated as “taking weapon”

the Ahmadiyya Imam Kashif Virk mentions and translates  2:190 into this Swedish version with his own translation of “transgress” and “transgressors”:

Strid för Guds sak mot dem som för krig mot er, men var inte de första som griper till vapen, Gud älskar sannerligen inte angripare” 

His Swedish Into  English:

“Fight  for the sake of God against them who fight  you you but be not the  first who take weapons in hand, God does truly not like attackers” 

to be compared with the Mohsin Khan  English version at https://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=2&translator=5#190 :

“And fight in the Way of Allah those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihad, but it was supplemented by another (2:290)].”

About “fight in defence” and “transgressing the limits” ( Quran 2:190 )

I read 2:190 this way:

“Fight in the Way of Allah (Ed. ihdina l-sirata) with good words and manner , those who fight you, but transgress not the limits, using words and manners (Ed.  according to  ( Quran 29:46  ). Truly, Allah likes not the transgressors. (ed. ….of Quran 29:46) 

A young Muslim should not understand it is ok to kill a Christian simply because he wear a cross. Or kill  a journalist or an artist that  argues in media against Islam, in effect fight against  Islam with words and paper.  the Quran confirm Moses law “You shall not kill” and tells that a good muslim should act according to 29:36. But If let say, USA attacks Mekka and Mosques killing Muslims with weapons then 2:191 permits Muslims to kill as a self defence. But just screeming out in H1 “Islam allows using weapons to defend yourself” is dangereous as it can be so misunderstood.

The Iranian.com archive  full story
about the start of the Zoroastrian persecution.

As  I don’t find a link from the new Iranian.com site to the archive and this most interesting story of the mail from Muhammad to the Emperor of Persia.  As it is an interesting piece of story, I decided to keep a copy here of the full story below the screenshot of the iranian.com archive with the story.

copy of the text with the full story from  iranian.com
(I added some text color to make it easier to find Muhammad letter.)

A Letter to Chosroes, Emperor of Persia …

“In the Name of Allâh, the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful.
From Muhammad, the Messenger of Allâh to Chosroes, king of Persia.
Peace be upon him who follows true guidance, believes in Allâh and His Messenger and testifies that there is no god but Allâh Alone with no associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. I invite you to accept the religion of Allâh. I am the Messenger of Allâh sent to all people in order that I may infuse fear of Allâh in every living person, and that the charge may be proved against those who reject the Truth. Accept Islam as your religion so that you may live in security, otherwise, you will be responsible for all the sins of the Magians.”

‘Abdullah bin Hudhafa As-Sahmi was chosen to carry the letter. Abdullah got his camel ready and bade farewell to his wife and son. He set out, alone, and traversed mountains and valleys until he reached the land of the Persians.

He sought permission to enter into the king’s presence informing the guards of the letter he was carrying. Khusraw Parvez thereupon ordered his audience chamber to be made ready and summoned his prominent aides. When they had assembled he gave permission for Abdullah to enter.

Abdullah entered and saw the Persian potentate dressed in delicate, flowing robes and wearing a great, neatly arranged turban. On Abdullah was the plain, coarse clothes of the bedouin. His head though was held high and his feet were firm. The honor of Islam burned fiercely in his breast and the power of faith pulsated in his heart.

As soon as Khusraw Parvez saw him approaching he signalled to one of his men to take the letter from his hand.

“No,” said Abdullah. ‘The Prophet commanded me to hand over this letter to you directly and I shall not go against a command of the Messenger of God.”

“Let him come near to me,” Khusraw said to his guards and Abdullah went forward and handed over the letter. Khusraw then called an Arab clerk who originally came from Hira and ordered him to open the letter in his presence and read its contents. He began reading:

“In the name of Allah, the Beneficent the Merciful. From Muhammad, the Messenger of God, to Khusraw the ruler of Persia. Peace on whoever follows the guidance . . .”

Khusraw only heard this much of the letter when the fire of anger burst within him. His face became red and he began to perspire around the neck. He snatched the letter from the clerk’s hand and began tearing it to pieces without knowing what else it contained and shouted, “Does he dare to write to me like this, he who is my slave”. He was angry that the Prophet had not given him precedence in his letter. He then commanded Abdullah to be expelled from his assembly.

Abdullah was taken away, not knowing what would happen to him. Would he be killed or would he be set free? But he did not want to wait to find out. He said, “By God, I don’t care what happens to me after the letter of the Prophet has been so badly treated.” He managed to get to his camel and rode off.

When Khusraw’s anger had subsided he commanded that Abdullah be brought before him. But Abdullah was nowhere to be found. They searched for him all the way to the Arabian peninsula but found that he had gone ahead.

Back in Madinah, Abdullah told the Prophet how Khusraw had torn his letter to pieces and the Prophet’s only reply was, “May God tear up his kingdom”.

Meanwhile, Khusraw wrote to Badhan, his deputy in the Yemen, to send two strong men to “that man who has appeared in the Hijaz” with orders to bring him to Persia.

Badhan dispatched two of his strongest men to the Prophet and gave them a letter to him in which he was ordered to go with the two men to meet Khusraw without delay. Badhan also asked the two men to get whatever information they could on the Prophet and to study his message closely.

The men set out, moving very quickly. At Taif they met some Quraysh traders and asked them about Muhammad. “He is in Yathrib,” they said and they went on to Makkah feeling extremely happy. This was good news for them and they went around telling other Quraysh, “You will be pleased. Khusraw is out to get Muhammad and you will be rid of his evil.”

The two men meanwhile made straight for Madinah where they met the Prophet, handed him the letter of Badhan and said to him, “The king of kings, Khusraw, has written to our ruler Badhan to send his men to get you. We have come to take you with us. If you come willingly, Khusraw has said that it will be good for you and he will spare you any punishment. If you refuse, you will know the power of his punishment. He has power to destroy you and your people.”

The Prophet smiled and said to them, “Go back to your mounts today and return tomorrow.”

On the following day, they came to the Prophet and said to him, “Are you prepared to go with us to meet Khusraw?”

“You shall not meet Khusraw after today,” replied the Prophet. “God has killed him and his son Shirwaih has taken his place on such a night and on such a month.”

The two men stared in the face of the Prophet. They were completely dumbfounded.

“Do you know what you are saying?” they asked. “Shall we write about this to Badhan?”

“Yes,” replied the Prophet, “and say to him that my religion has informed me about what has happened to the Kingdom of Khusraw and that if he should become Muslim, I would appoint him ruler over what he now controls”.

The two men returned to the Yemen and told Badhan what had happened. Badhan said, “If what Muhammad has said is true, then he is a Prophet. If not then we shall see what happens to him.”

Not long afterwards a letter from Shirwaih came to Badhan in which he said, “I killed Khusraw because of his tyranny against our people. He regarded as lawful the killing of leaders, the capturing of their women and the expropriating of their wealth. When this my letter reaches you, take the allegiance of whoever is with you on my behalf.”

As soon as Badhan had read Shirwaih’s letter, he threw it aside and announced his entry into Islam. The Persians with him in the Yemen also became Muslim.

That’s the story of Abdullah ibn Hudhafah’s meeting with the Persian king.”   ( Source:  iranian.com ) 


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My agnostic pluralist religious approach

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Introduction

My name is Stellan I am for religious tolerance and pluralism, that is I am for 

” dialogue and encounter, give and take, criticism and self-criticism.” (Source: http://pluralism.org/what-is-pluralism )

I am an agnostic Creationist, following a form of religious pluralism, being inspired by  Buddhistic, Christian, Hinduism, Zoroastrian, and Muslim holy books as well as other sources, like philosophers (Spinoza, Confucius) and scientists (Einstein, LeMaître, Fred Hoyle, Päbo… ). 

As a catholic Christian following now and the Jehovah Witness meetings, reading the Gospels attending Catholic Mass on Sundays,   I believe that 

The Christian Bible even if important, is absolutely not the sole and exclusive source of truth and good values. 

I  acknowledge that truths and good values exist in other religions too.  There is not elected people like the Jews claimed to be. God, if a superior God exists, does not discriminate humans. I search therefore good thoughts and values among other religions like eg in the Qu’ran, the Zoroastrian Gathas Hymns of Zarathushtra, Bhagavad Gita, I got a brain that is supposed to be able to judge what is good and what is not.
And I think l have a brain that should be able to judge what should be the truth and not.

INTERFAITHDIALOG

i  like the interreligious dialog ied by the pope and http://www.interfaithamigos.com  in https://youtu.be/tPnZArtsG

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Ground law

My ground law is among others Jesus laws  ( Matthew 19:18 )

If someone instigates to act against these rules like”Kill! or “lapidate” then those are words of stupid/evil humans.

I was given a reason to be used. So I study all kinds of Sciences, Anthropology, Biology (Darwin among others) , Physics,  Math, in fact, God itself and it’s manifest. 
I have a  Deistic approach.

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I am intreseted in Spinozas view of God.

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  1. I don’t fully agree with Einstein’s second part of this view  “I believe in Spinoza’s God, Who reveals Himself in the orderly  harmony of what exists, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.” ( http://www.kinberg.net/science-without- religion/ )
  2. Einstein also said “God does not play dice with the Universe” (Source: www.hawking.org.uk ) being critical to Schrödinger’s equation about the probability of electron position in clouds.
  3. The more I study science the bigger is my as Einstein said  “unbounded admiration for the structure of the world

“Baruch Spinoza and Albert Einstein considered God to be essentially the sum total of the physical laws which describe the Universe”  (Carl Sagan Broca’s brain)

Baruch Spinoza said:
“Whatsoever is, is in God and without God, nothing can be or be conceived.”

“God is the indwelling and not the transient cause of all things
We feel and know that we are eternal Do not weep, do now wax indignant. Understand.” 

The  Songs of Zarathushtra help us understand Spinoza’s view of God. Shortly said, “The Universe is the body of God, God materialized according to E=mc2.”

This is my pluralistic belief where you can find inspiration from several holy books.

  • Buddhism has taught me many things among this wisdom below. We got a mind able to distinguish good from evil. Let us use it in our spiritual voyage.
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My favorite creed

My favorite creed is the Swedish psalm 766. Translated by me  it reads like this
 
I believe in a God who is holy and warm,
which gives the fighting spirit and identity.
A healing God who builds up broken souls,
which strengthens awareness. 
I believe in a God who cries with me
when I cry so everything tears.
A comforting God that which waits until the crying has ended. I believe in a God who lives within me
and who lives in everything outside. A laughing God who wants to laugh with me,
who lives with me when I die
 

I believe in

  •  a revealing God. God talked to , many prophets like  Zoroaster, Johannes, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and as finally, Muhamad to help Homo Sapiens become homo Sapiens Sapiens, a good image of God.
  • the Holy Spirit that acts here in between us humans
  • the Soul. In every one of us there is a temple of God, the Soul. If we listen to our inner voice we maybe are listening to God.
  • ( Read about this in Corinthian 3:16
  • Allah takes our soul temporarily when we sleep. But until the resurrection when we die ( Quran 6:60 )
    The Indian mystic  Swami Vivekananda about the soul:
    Image result for temple of God in everyone of us vivekananda
  • the miracles. God created the Quantum Physics laws and its particles and has power over these as well as over the initial unified Force.  with these can God/Allah do anything,  incarnate Adam on Earth, make Virgin Mary pregnant, Jesus go on the water, Jesus sees what God sees, etc.
  • the incarnation. I believe that God can incarnate in anybody and see us with the eyes of any creature (the definition of  Avatära in Bhagavad Gita 4:7) 
  • Reincarnation of souls in special cases, like that of Anna Frank in Barbro. Kids like Anna may have gone to heaven but to get rid of all those horrible memories she was given a chance to come back as Barbro and possibly be able to meet her parents again the day of Resurrection.
  • The resurrection of the dead in a spiritual body, something I hope I will experience meeting my mother again to show her how I took care of the house and land she gave and left to me 1998.
  • Zoroastrianism and John. God was initially Thought, vibrations and  Energy  and most of it is now materialized in this Universe “Gods body” Remind that John said that “in the beginning was the word” (John 1:1). I interpret John my own way.
    “God created both the invisible and invisible worlds from Himself using His astral body and His own light.”
    “The material world consisting of fire, water, air, earth, plants, animals, and humans is very much like the body of God”
    ( as interpreted by www.hinduwebsite.com)

    Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take eat,  this means my body.” ( Matthew 26:26)
  • a concerning, tolerant, and forgiving God.  For me a God should per definition be all-knowing, perfect,  thus  God should be better than the wisest and the greatest nobleman, a man that does it best to have a good mind,  good purposes, look for Truth and righteousness, serenity, loving-kindness,  forgiveness mercifulness, understanding, and tolerance.
  • So being perfect and all-knowing,  God created a perfect world, a world were humans, as the image of God  have the responsibility to listen, observe,  work and take care of each other and God’s creation and gift, the Earth. 
  • God is not cruel. So a conclusion of mine is that God does therefore  not intervene in his own creation if that was not planned from the beginning. If God did we would be degraded to be animals again without mind and will. It is our mission and duty to fight evil in this world. But I believe God will one day (the resurrection day) make the earth as once planed a paradise
  • Prayer is useful… even if God may not intervene. It is you that has to find the solution (light). Only when you recognize your own weakness and limits,  on the bottom of a deep hole (crisis),  you are able to climb up again out of the hole up to the light. With prayer, you achieve the right state of mind to solve your problem.
  •  There is no chosen people. God does not discriminate.  There is no such a thing as a “God chosen people” even if some Christians, Jews, and Muslims like to believe that to justify their evil actions, Christian inquisitor torturing, Muslim fanatics killing their prophet Jesus followers.
  • A fair God. God does not discriminate, so God talks to all humans in their language,  who listen and looks for help and the right path. (Quran, 1:6 )  God does not show favoritism  but accepts from every nation the one who fears him and does what is right.” ( Acts 10:35 )  “or God does not show favoritism.” (Rom 2:11 )
  • Confucius tao.  There are two forces, evil and good (Ying and Yang)we are confronted with from birth. Christians name them the devil, the black angel, and God.  As parents and adults, we have the responsibility to help our newborn to confront evil and follow the right path. “‘l-SirATa ‘l-mustaqim” (Quran [1:6]).
  • Life after death
    Read “On life after death” by  Dr. Elisabeth  Kubler-Ross
    hell and reincarnation
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  • Meyer and his work.
    We create our own hell here on Earth. “To use an old metaphor, when in the world of the living, the soul makes its bed upon which it will sleep in the afterlife. ” Source: https://heritageinstitute.com/zoroastrianism
    When we die, we leave our body and restricted mind,  we get infinite empathy, knowledge, and understanding. So if a man has driven other people to suffer here on Earth, then he will feel the pain he caused a thousand times stronger and for a long time until our soul like Adam was according to Quran may be incarnated in a new creature. 
    The Zoroastrian view of death: “the soul would remain on earth for a three days and nights, hovering near the body.  Then it would depart to the spiritual realm, led by Daena, the guardian spirit, where it would be greeted with a vision of the thoughts, words, and actions it performed when it was inside the human body upon earth.”  ( www.hinduwebsite.com)

These are my beliefs now 2018 March 7, March 4  I went through a major paradigm shift as I learned about the Christian Resurrection, thought about it, and now updated this article. Read more in  http://www.kinberg.net/2018/01/24/life-and-afterlife/#resurrection

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Afterdeath experience according to Buddhism

Buddhism talks about after death experiences were the soul met King Yama to explain its deeds. See Pale Canon page 29-30  chapter “The divine messengers”
let us hope God will be merciful with us for being that stupid and ignorant on Earth.

This Buddhist view reminds me very much about the Egyptian  Underworld God Osiris weighting the heart of Mena against the God of truth maat in this hieroglyph found in Mena’s grave:

With a heavy hearth you can not fit up to Heaven. Read more in  e.g. http://maatlaws.blogspot.com/

A friend of me shared with me Abhidhamma 

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Zoroastrianism

Zoroastrism was the first monotheistic religion. Zarathushtra was the first Zoroastrian prophet who is said to have written the Song of Zarathushtra, the Gatas. The main moral for this religion today practiced by Zoroastrians around the world is “Good thoughts, Good deeds”

About the Zoroastrian Persian King, we can be read in  2 Chronicles 36:22-23 

Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, so that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and also put it in writing, saying,  Thus says Cyrus king of Persia:

All the kingdoms of the earth the Lord God of heaven has given me. And He has commanded me to build Him a house at Jerusalem which is in Judah. Who is among you of all His people? May the Lord his God be with him, and let him go up!”

About The Zoroastrian, God can be read in 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/zoroastrian/beliefs/god.shtml

and in http://www.hinduwebsite.com/zoroastrianism/beliefs.asp

I wrote more about Zoroastrism in http://www.kinberg.net/2017/09/26/being-interreligious/#Gathas

My favorite prayers

I am not much for prayers. Why should God help me when there are so many others who need much more help than me? I pray for God helping others.

I mostly thank God for having maybe guided me.

Praying for help has a beneficial effect  however as by praying you to accept your limitations and limit performance anxiety. It is never wrong to ask for help.

“Thee alone I worship; Thee alone I ask for help, Show me the straight path” recited in Quranic Arabic of course.
Quran [1:6]

“Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your me, your kingdom come, your’s will be done, on earth as in heaven. Give us today our daily bread;  and forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors; and do not subject us to the final test, but deliver us from the evil one.” (Matthew 6:9-13 )

As it is written in the Quran “We gave ‘Îsa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), clear signs and supported him with Ruh-ul-Qudus” (= Holy Spirit) ( Quran 2:87 ) I of course also like 

“Ave Maria……. pray for us now and at the hour of our death”

The unified Human evolution theory is another result of my search for answers, in this case about the origin of homo sapiens sapiens.

Read more here

Other sources I have looked at:



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Unified human evolution theory

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Introduction

This post was published Sep 8, 2017. It is now updated.

I am inspired by  “The Grand Unified Theory that is a vision of a physics theory that can combine three of the four fundamental forces into one single equation.” (http://wiki.c2.com/?GrandUnifiedTheory )

A unified human evolution theory  is growing in my mind.

My grandfather asked in his book

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I have a preliminary answer to the third question (Did Adam and Eva had ancestors?).
My search for an answer made me come to a hypothesis of a  unified creation theory of mankind. I discuss the validity of it, below.

INDEX

  1. introduction
  2. hypothesis
    1. The earth was a green house and  human body incubator.
    2. A homo sapiens hybrid was the best fitted body and a blanc slate
    3. One of these hybrids became a homo sapiens sapiens,  an image of God.
    4. Adam, the first prophet and homo sapiens sapiens
  3. Genesis and my theory
  4. The metaphores – I  am  the Alpha and the Omega

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Hypothesis – a discussion

The “unified creation theory” i describe in this post, is a agnostic hypothesis. It may end up with three conclusions:

  1. The hypothesis is true.
  2. The hypothesis is false.
  3.  The hypothesis is indeterminable.

I use the hypothesis definitions at www.theophys.kth.se .

As we can never know what is true or false about God, the Human soul and Adam,  a agnostic conclusion can be either:

  1. the validity of the hypothesis is a better description of what we can observe than the non-validity of the hypothesis.
  2. the  non-validity of the hypothesis, it is a better description of what we can observe than the validity of the hypothesis”
  3. the validity of the hypothesis is a better description of what we can observe.
  4. the non-validity of the hypothesis a better description of what we can observe.

some arguments for option 1

The Quran gives support for a “Evolution of the Human species” hypothesis to be correct (Source www.answeringislamicskeptics.com ) as can be read in Quran 76:1 that says: “Has there come on man a long period of time when he was a thing unremembered?” I dont find this support in the Bible. 

I personally think that the validity of my Unified creation hypothesis is a better description of what we can observe.

Of course, my hypothesis has to be proven trashed or developed.  I try here to define the main pillars of this hypothesis

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1. The earth was a green house and  human body incubator.

Image result for incubatorpicture of a Chick bator incubator
(Image source: Amazon)

The Earth has for millions of years been an incubator and a greenhouse, where human bodies developed according to the Darwin Evolution theory (the survival of the fittest bodies) and in modern time, documented by the human evolution research.

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2. A homo sapiens hybrid was the best-fitted body and a blank slate to be written on to become homo sapiens sapiens.

Probably the best-fitted body (but not perfect as explained here) was that of a Human hybrid, a mix of Homo sapiens coming from Africa and Neanderthal who was well adapted to life in colder climates with frequent lack of food. The oldest of these hybrids remains were found in Israel. These hybrids had a homo sapiens brain volume,  a blanc slate  ( https://archive.org/details/StevenPinkerBlankSlate ) ready to be written on….  divine knowledge and wisdom. This hybrid homo sapiens became a homo sapiens sapiens whose descendants later spread all over the world. 

I recommend this book of Svante Päbo. It is written to be understood also for not scientifically educated readers.

Image result for dvsnter päbo the neanderthals book

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3. One of these hybrids became a human, a homo sapiens sapiens, an image of God.

I got this idea with this film were the soul of a wheelchair man was incarnated in a Navi body accustomed to the Pandora planet.

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4. Adam, the first prophet and homo sapiens sapiens.

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Îsa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam (Qu’ran 3:59)”

See citations in the Qu’ran

Adams soul was incarnated, manifested in a homo sapiens sapiens form

Adam with all the Godgiven knowledge after he disobeyed God (read more ) was sent to Earth, My actual hypothesis is that Adam was incarnated in a human body and brain that was a blind slate (tabula rasa) ready to be written on, a body that was best fitted for life on Earth. Being so, Adam, the first Homo sapiens sapiens could share his wisdom to his descendants who of course also inherited Adams’s DNA, temperaments, and talents.


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Trying to integrate Moses and Muslim Genesis into my theory.

The Bible Genesis, read literally, makes it more difficult to accept with a scientific eye and approach.  It is no surprise that many US Americans (more than 30%) do not believe in the Evolution theory (http://www.gallup.com) . 

When I read Moses Genesis I remind myself that there is no morning or sunset for a  God as God per definition is everywhere. The day of God is therefore not a human being day.  The Qu’ran is clear very about that. In the Bible, you find a clear indication of this in psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
and in 1 Peter 3:8-9.
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.”

I would say that the Genesis day is metaphor of a time period understandable by humans of that time (When was Genesis written?).

As the Mosaic Genesis is in conflict with what we see around us and with Scientific facts like the evolutionary hypothesis, I had to rewrite the Genesis  based on a Quranic creation message and science in http://www.kinberg.net/2018/03/28/the-enlightened-genesis/

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The metaphores
I  am  the Alpha and the Omega
(Rev 21:6)

God talked to us many times with metaphors. I love Jesus metaphors- parables in the Gospels. Human beings living  4000 years ago would never have understood a more complex description of the Creation like e.g that in the Qu’ran or what we can understand today. God could of course be more detailed 1500 years ago adding big numbers like 50 000 in the Qu’ran. Today he could maybe talk to us about billions of years and atoms and maybe a Big Bang.

Genesis tells us that Adam was created with Earth. But what could  “Earth” be a metaphor for? An Evolution theory course pupil of mine thought that “earth” could be a metaphor for “minerals”.  Nothing more is said in Genesis how God made Adam out of the earth. The Genesis text could maybe hide that God made man with the evolution theory laws as we know them today and that the Creation of Adam creation day took millions of human years to finalize. 

We know today that Water, ammonia, methane, hydrogen gas, sulfur and phosphor molecules, are the basic molecules to build sugar, amino acid and nucleic acid molecules. But could God have told this to humans 4000 years ago? Of course not, so the metaphor “dust” was at that time the best explanation. Read more in http://www.kinberg.net/2018/01/03/search-luca-makes-progresses-2/#hydrothermal_pools

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Conclusion

I have this Unified Theory of Creation integrated in the “Genesis 3000 AD”  possibly published in May  2018. You find it in my main menu under theology interreligious.

Almost three years later, this theory is still the one I believe in.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CAST OUT THE PEDOFILE PRIESTS FROM THE HOUSE OF GOD

CAST OUT THE PEDOFILE PRIESTS FROM THE HOUSE OF GOD.
Like Jesus did once with the money changers. “And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the money changers, and the chairs of them that sold doves:” – Matthew 21:12
I am happy that… http://m.cooperativa.cl/noticias/pais/policial/pedofilia/iglesia-revelo-listado-de-sacerdotes-condenados-por-abusos-contra-menores-en-chile/2011-11-11/171559.html

But what happens next. What does e.g. www.katolskakyrkan.se to protect the childrens? I have not been able to ask fader Håkan this today. I will next week.