Son of Man



June 7 Gv 3,16-18 in Italian is read.See English text below.

Again a text that shows a bragging Jesus and a support of the triniity dogma. I am disappointed with Johns Gospels authors. I loved the first part but then….

I wrote about the trinity dogma in another post.

Miguel Serveto was convicted of heresy and sentenced to death 16 october 1553 by Protestants because he wrote “De trinitatis erroribus” .

The text of today is maybe a early Church adding the Johns Gospel to support this trinity dogma and the Mariology to deny that Joseph was his real father.

I emphasize in this post tehe fequent us of the  “Son of man” title, that Jesus gave himself according to the Gospels. a title that appears in several Gospels and also in John 3:13-14.

As the early Church wanted Jesus to be the incarnation of God, it is understandable that they mistranslated the Aramaic and Hebrew title to “Son of Man”

I came to the same conclusion as Geza Vermes. “that the use of “the Son of man” in the Christian Gospels is unrelated to Hebrew Torah usages” that Jesus followed strictly.

The frequent use of “Be-Adam” (in Aramaic) shows that Jesus was a man that did not want to exalt himself over human beings. He was  a “wise genious” that did not need to brag.




The text

Here is the text of John 3:8-18.

( N:B. The text below is  copied from )

I paste in from verse 3:8-9 to see the reading of today 3:16-18 in a correct context as John describes it.

John 3:09-21:

03:09 Nicodemus answered him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him,

03:10 “Are you the teacher of Israel, and don’t understand these things?

03:11 Most certainly I tell you, we speak that which we know, and testify of that which we have seen, and you don’t receive our witness.

03:12 If I told you earthly things and you don’t believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things?

03:13 No one has  scended into heaven, but he who descended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven.

03:14 As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 

03:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

3:17 For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.

03:18 He who believes in him is not judged. He who doesn’t believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.

03:19 This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil.  For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn’t come to the light, lest his works would be exposed.

03:21 But  he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God.”


The message


03:09 Nicodemus answered him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him,

Who did listen to this dialog? it is not reasonable that Nicodemos shared his dialog with Jesus disciples. “He came to Jesus at night” for a good reason as he was was a member of the Jewish ruling council. (John 3:3 ) Nicodemus did most probably not want to have witnesses about his dialog with Jesus.

But Johns authors for some strange reason are able to share this secret night dialog.

So according to John, Jesus answered:

03:13 No one has  scended into heaven, but he who descended out of heaven, the Son of Man, who is in heaven.

This verse and the following 3:14-18 are in my opinion not the  true words of Jesus for two reasons. Noone could have listened to his dialog with Nicodemus.  And he had no reason to brag about himself with Nicodemus.

Son of man – be-adam

This title that Jesus used about himself is used several times in Jogn and the the other Gospels.

“Son of man”  In Hebrew, the term is ben-adam, while in Aramaic  its equivalent bar-adam is used. (Source: Wiki )

It is most reasonable that Jesus used the Aramaic “Be-Adam” about himself to emphasize his being a  human, son of Adam and keeping at the same time a connection to the Hebrew tests. “The Hebrew expression “son of man” (בן–אדם i.e. ben-‘adam) appears one hundred and seven times in the Hebrew Bible.” (SOurce: Wiki )

The title “Son of man” has later been used  “more than eighty times in the New Testament.” Read more at ).The Hebrew Ben-adam has been translate by the authors of John to “Huios tou anthrōpou”. See Biblehub interlingual. ).

This Greek translation is of course not a correct translation from Hebrew nor Aramaic. I have never heard a Catholic priest deepen the meaning of “Son of man”

In verse 3:13 we read again that Jesus call himself the “Son of man”. 

Jesus used this title (ben-Adam or  Be-Adam) in many other contexts, and it became one of the main ways he referred to himself. Here are some examples:

“But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins” – he then said to the paralytic – “Rise, pick up your bed and go home.” (Matthew 9:6)

“For the Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath.” (Matthew 12:8)

“The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers.” (Matthew 13:41)

Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” (Matthew 16:13)

“For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done.” (Matthew 16:27)

He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes and be killed, and after three days rise again. (Mark 8:31)

“Blessed are you when people hate you and when they exclude you and revile you and spurn your name as evil, on account of the Son of Man!” (Luke 6:22)

“The Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and on the third day be raised.” (Luke 9:22)

He said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, you will see heaven opened, and the angels of God ascending and descending on the Son of Man.” (John 1:51)

“No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up.” (John 3:13-14)

He said, “Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.” (Acts 7:56) (Source

As he called himself Be-Adam (in Aramaic) shows clearly his humility in front of God.

Jesus called God, his father. Jesus never called himself “Son of God” but “Be-Adam).  God is the father (grand grandfather or whatever) of all human beings but that does not imply that Jesus is the physical genomeic son of God as the early Church wanted him to be with its Trinity and Mariology dogma.

Son of Man is also the title of a song of Phil Collins

Oh, the power to be strong
And the wisdom to be wise
All these things will
Come to you in time
On this journey that you’re making
There’ll be answers that you’ll seek
And it’s you who’ll climb the mountain
It’s you who’ll reach the peak…

His song makes me think about Jesus as a child and how he grew up with Joseph, his brothers and sisters and his mother.

But Jesus were not alone but guided by God, God he met when he went apart from the crowd.

As Wiki authors write “The meaning of the expression is controversial. Interpretation of the use of “the Son of man” in the New Testament has remained challenging and after 150 years of debate no consensus on the issue has emerged among scholars.The expression “the Son of man” occurs 81 times in the Greek text of the four Canonical gospels, and is used only in the sayings of Jesus. The Hebrew expression “son of man” (בן–אדם i.e. ben-‘adam) also appears in the Torah over a hundred times. Geza Vermes has stated that the use of “the Son of man” in the Christian gospels is unrelated to Hebrew Torah usages.”



I am happy that i learned bout the “Son of man” title that Jesus often used.

This title gave me a new light about the man Jesus.