Jesus baptism and paedobaptism

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INTRODUCTION

Today at Mass John 1,29-34 is read   (Italian version: Gv 1,29-34 )

It reminded my about Jesus baptism that was celebrated on Monday. I decided to take a pause from my math Fourier studies and writing.

This is a update of a post i published January 13 2019.

January 13 the Catholic Mass read about Jesus baptism 30 years old. Jesus baptism has been discussed since the begining of Christianity.

“Baptists—and “Bible churches” in the Baptist tradition—insist that baptism is only for those who have come to faith. Nowhere in the New Testament, they point out, do we read of infants being baptized.” (Source:  www.catholic.com )

I wanted to baptice my childrens in my Catholic church but were not allowed to do that because I never went to mass at that time. We could have done that in the Protestant church but I and the mother decided that the childrens could do that as adults instead, like Jesus did. 

This post led me into a paradigm shift.

INDEX

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The text

I do not add here the text of this Sunday but share texts that may refer to neonatal baptism.

Jesus about baptism

according to  Matthew  28:19 Jesus said after he arise from death:

Go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”

If this is a true testimonial or a invention from the apostle to justify paedobaptism, remain to be seen.

Matthew 3:13 says:

“03:13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to John,
to be baptized by him. But John would have hindered him, saying, “I need to be  baptized by you, and you come to me?”

Mark 01:05 writes why John the Baptist baptized like this:
All the country of Judea and all those of Jerusalem went out to him. They were baptized by him in the Jordan river, confessing their sins.

Mark 01:09 says then “It happened in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan.”

Probably Matthew relied on the writings of Mark.

But the apostle John didnt follow Mark. John starts his Gospel 01:29  with Jesus coming to John the Baptist but the apostle John never writes that Jesus got baptized by John. Why?

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The message

I have wondered for long time why Jesus wanted to be baptized by John according to Mark and Matthew. But as john never mention this, I begun wondering  if Jesus ever let himself be baptized.

Maybe after all, Jesus never thought he needed to make “a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins” as Mark 01:04 writes or to “confess his sins”)

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History of paedobaptism

he Greek Bishop Gregory of Nazianz wrote in the second century: ” what do you have to say about those who are still children, and aware neither of loss nor of grace? Shall we baptize them too?’  Certainly [I respond], if there is any pressing danger. Better that they be sanctified unaware, than that they depart unsealed and uninitiated”. Read more inwww.catholic.com

Neonatal death  was very common 2000 years ago. Probably because of that, the Catholic church started  the tradition to baptice newborn babies as soon as possible. Mybe the church did it “to save these newborn from hell or from the original sin”.

Michael Servetus who was sentenced to death because of heresy, said about paedobaptism:

“It is an invention of the devil, an infernal falsity for the destruction of all Christianity.” ( Source: www.newworldencyclopedia.org/ )

I do not understand why he came to this strong conclusion.

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conclusion

updating my article about Jesus baptism I experienced a paradigm shift and understood that I must change somewhat my story about the young Jesus.

Jesus may have baptized with John to rbe a good example for others and to repent his behaviour as a young child when he made his parents scared by not following them out of the temple.

What happens if you die and are not baptized as infant?

Catholic.com does not answer on that question but says that “you are not saved” if you are not baptized. Read more in https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-necessity-of-baptism 

The pope Benedict 16 said that as we choose to get childrens so we should baptize them as “with the baptism they are protected by God” Read more in the Italian site  http://www.santamelania.it

Catholic.com also says “Thus the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed (A.D. 381), “We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.” 

Only the Witnesses of Jehovah do not practice infant baptism. (read more in https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/baptism.php )

Paedobaptism

As the church regards Jesus as God and therefore his baaptising not a baptising for the sins, the church started the tradition of paedobaptism. Jesus baptism was like a paedobaptism despite his documented 30 years of age.

Despite what Jesus said in Matthew, maybe Jesus himself did errors as a small child and wanted therefore to get baptized for the sins made during his youth.