This post had the title “the apostles looking for Jesus”.
I decided to change the title of this post as the content has become more and more oriented to what the Gospels really are.
I understand now why it was prohibited to translate the Gospels. That a few were killed by the church because they translated it, is now more understandable. i wrote about this translation story in
- The Gospels
- Jesus teaching
- the Gospel writers never lived with Jesus?
Talmidin were those who followed Jesus and accurately wrote what Jesus said and teached. ( read more
in www.thattheworldmayknow.com/rabbi-and-talmidim ),
Their Thalmidin memories and documents later reached Papias of Hierapolis, Paul and the evangelists who wrote Mark, Matthews, Luke’ and John’s gospel.
Lukes gospel is regarded by many to be the most accurate Gospel. There are also suspicions that some New Testament texts have been adjusted to fit the early church dogmas.
About Mark we can read what Clement of Alexandria said in a letter found 1958, by Morton Smith, a professor of ancient history at Columbia University, in the monastery of Mar Saba situated 20 kilometers south-east of Jerusalem.
“when Peter died as a martyr, Mark [i.e. Mark the Evangelist] came over to Alexandria, bringing both his own notes and those of Peter, from which he transferred to his former book [i.e. the Gospel of Mark] the things suitable to whatever makes for progress toward knowledge.”
Clement wrote in his letter about the unfalsified Gospel of Mark, later called “secret gospel of Mark”. Read more in http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/secretmark.html
The Gospels were written by authors who never lived with Jesus. The authors made their best to fill the knowledge gaps. They sought inspiration therefore from the Old Testament. For this reason the early life of Jesus became a a paraphrase of the life of Moses.
read more about this issue in my page about Mamzer Jesus.
There are little doubts about what Jesus teached and said. Especcially those parts that are against the Christian dogmas should be genuine words of Jesus. Examples are:
- “Love your enemie “ and Jesus letting his feet be cleaned by a prostitute. Jesus told with these examples, that God want the sinner to be converted and not killed. The Catholic Church defending its dogmas, didn’t follow Jesus, killing and torturing with its inquisition.
- Jesus choosed Mary of Magdala to inform the disciples about his resurrection. Only now Mary of Magdala is recognized as not having been a prostitute, thanks to pope Francesco , with a special Sunday mass dedication in June.
Despite Paul regarded women as submitted by men, he recommended several women as good disciples. The Catholic Church has yet not accepted that women could be priests. Neither does Witnesses of Jehova let women lead their meetings.
- ( http://www.famigliacristiana.it/articolo/santa-maria-maddalena-la-discepola-calunniata-che-per-prima-vide-la-risurrezione.aspx )
- “Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani” are also probably genuine words of Jesus. Jesus wouldnt have said if he regarded himself a God.
- The Gospels confirm parts of his teaching. The Gospel of Thomas I(see https://archive.org/details/TheGospelOfThomas) documents several words of Jesus that are found also in the other Gospels. The Gospel of Thomas found in Egypt may have been uses by the Gospel writers.
- Hypocrisy. Jesus is very severe against hypocrisy as in Matthew 32 “they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.”. The behaviour of many priests especcially those high up in the church hierarchy, was indeed examples of hypocrisy
the Gospel writers never lived with Jesus?
It is often said that the Gospel writers probably never lived with Jesus. This may be true for Luke who was a greek by birth.
Paul himself said he experienced Jesus resurrection
“Last of all he appeared to me too, as though I was a child born abnormally.” (1 Corinthian 15:8 ).
John himself claims in John 21:24 that the Gospel of John is based on the written testimony of the “Beloved Disciple”.
John may have lived with Jesus from the time he was very young, following Jesus from his baptism to his death and resurrection.
He had then access to Marc, Luke and Matthews Gospel when he started to write his own Gospel. Despite of this, it is very strange that there are in Johns Gospel
- no parables,
- no exorcisms,
- no sermon on the mount
- no lord’s prayer,
- no temptation by the devil,
- no transfiguration,
- no institution of the lord’s supper,
- and almost no references to the “kingdom of God”
looking for Jesus in the old testament.
The apostels made their best to reconstruct Jesus life and deeds to gie a most reliable historical pciture. This is especcially the case of Luke who added many details Mark did not have, like for example names of people. Were something was missing. like about Jesus childhood, the apostles filled in the missing parts with what they believed must have been the truth, searching in the elder sacred scripts, like the story of Moses.
The childhood and life of Jesus is very much a paraphrase of the life of Moses.
inspired by Pagan believes
The wine miracle is a paraphrase of the miracle of Dionysos .
the saliva blind man miracle ( Marc 8,23, John 9,1 ) is a paraphrase of the miracle of the emperor Vespasiano descirbed by the Historian Tacito. ( “Nein und Amen”, Uta Ranke-Heineman page 95 ) .
the Greek God of medicine Aesculapius also made curing miracles that were documented at e.g. his temple in Coo. ( “Nein und Amen”, Uta Ranke-Heineman page 97 ) .
For the apostles, Jesus must have been not only a God of wine but also a god of medicine too. the apostles made their best to give a divine image of Jesus with these Pagan Roamn and greek myths.
I wrote more about Jesus miracles in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2019/08/04/jesus-miracles-2/
Peter’s eyewittness in Mark
Some of his disciples may have lived when the first Gospels were written.
Marks gospel was probably written with the help of Peters eyewitness as Peter was imprisoned in Rome.
Read more at www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com
The Gospels contraddict each other
There are several contradiction in the Gospels that confuses the thinking readers. Here are some of these:
Genealogy. Matthew says that the father of Joseph was Jacob; Luke 3,23 says that the father of Joseph was Eli;
Luke says Jesus has 57 ancestors included Abraham;
Matthew says he had 42 ancestors that are different;
John does not add a geneaology, maybe John didnt think Jesus needed a royal pedigree to support his authority. Maybe he also thought that being a descendant of Adam like Luke 3,23 suggests, is not honoring Jesus as everyone is a descendant of Adam.
reasd about Jesus geneaology in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/12/25/the-geneaology-of-jesus/
Matthew and Luke says that Jesus choosed the disciples in Galilee in the North of Israel; John says that Jesus choosed the disciples in Bethany in the south of Israel.
Easter celebrations. Jesus celebrate according to John, the Easters, that is Hannukka, Sukkopt and probably Shavout;
Mark, Matthew and Luke talk only about one Easter in Jerusalem.
Father prayer. John does not mention Jesus prayer despite he dedicated 5 chapter to the last evening.
John the baptist. Luke says that John the Baptist and Jesus were related;
According to John they seem not even to know each other.
(Source “Inchiesta su Gesù”, Corrado Augias, Mauro Pesce)
According to John Jesus said in Joh 10:30 “I and my Father are one” Only John reports about this. This is maybe because only John witnessed this teaching.
This saying has led many to believe and say things like “Maryam mater dei” that Mary is the mother of God and give Jesus he epitet”God” as in God Jesus” like e.g. the article in ww.allaboutjesuschrist.org/jesus-is-god.htm tries to explain.
I wrote about this issue in a previous post at www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2019/02/10/is-jesus-god/
The pork miracle, Territory of Gadareneses or Gerasenes?
Marc 5, 1 and Luke 8,26 both talk about how Jesus came over to the east side of the Galilee Sea, at the territory of the Gerasenes
Marc 5,1 says “a man with an unclean spirit at once came out from the tombs towards him. 3 The man lived in the tombs and no one could secure him any more, even with a chain,”
One or two possessed men?
Luke 8,26 says: “They came to land in the territory of the Gerasenes, which is opposite Galilee. He was stepping ashore when a man from the city who was possessed by devils came towards him; for a long time the man had been living with no clothes on, not in a house, but in the tombs.”
One wonder why the tombs were 60 chilometers away from the town of Gerasa (today Gerash). 60 km is equal to about 6 days of intensive walking.
Matthew does the same mistake about Gadara that he says is at the river of the Galilee Sea.
2 possessed men
Matthew 8, 28 talks instead about the Gadarenes with 2 possesed men
“When he reached the territory of the Gadarenes on the other side, two demoniacs came towards him out of the tombs — they were so dangerously violent that nobody could use that path. 29 Suddenly they shouted, ‘What do you want with us, Son of God? Have you come here to torture us before the time?’ 30 Now some distance away there was a large herd of pigs feeding,… ” The 1 unclean spirit showed up to be 2000 spirits when they had to enter the 2000 pigs owned by the pig farmer that then lost them all in the Sea.”
NB. Gadara is 10 km away from the river, that is equal to about 1 day of walking.
Read more about these contradtictions in bible.org
Lazarus is only mentioned in John.
the last cry in the synoptic gospels
Matthew 15, 37 that was written first says about Jesus death:
“But Jesus gave a loud cry and breathed his last.”
Luke the doctor, in Luke 23,46 were able years later, add more details to this last cry.
46 Jesus cried out in a loud voice saying, ‘Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.‘ With these words he breathed his last.
Matthew had a third version in Matthew 27,46
46 And about the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, ‘Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is, ‘My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?’
Several names of people in Matthew, Luke and John’s Gospel are not named in the earliest Mark’s gospel despite the fact that Luke and John had access to Mark’s gospel.
My view about the Gospels and its content has changed drammatically in this reasearch. I experienced a tough paradigm shift reading “Nein and Amen” by Uta-Ranke-Heineman and my faith was questioned.
I came out of this well. I still believe that God can do anything. I am writing a post about the miracles in the Gospels that I will publish tomorrow. All those miracles in the Gospels are not essential for my faith in Jesus. The “miracle of Jonah” is enough. He is a great Messiah anyway for his teaching/kerygma and his horrible death and miracolous resurrection. I believe we will met him one day again.
“I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and life everlasting.”
( The last verses of the Apostles creed )