At Catholic mass Sunday April 15 2018 we listened about the ( Acts 4:32-35 ) about the death of Anania and Sapphira:
Jesus said “… If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.” ( John 20:21-23 )
Peter did not forgive Anania and Sapphira. I am disgusted about the cynism Peter showed in his talking to Sapphira. Read more below.
Evryone knows what jesus did with the prostitute who was to be lapidated according to Moses laws for adultery as she “was caught in the act of adultery.”
Jesus said to the people:
“Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” ( John 8:7 )
Jesus was the one who could have lapidated her being without sin, but he didn’t and said instead to the prostitute . “Go now and leave your life of sin.” ( John 8:11 )
Read what the apostels made with Ananias and Sapphira who lied about their donation to the community:
“Now a man named Ananias, together with his wife Sapphira, also sold a piece of property.
With his wife’s full knowledge he kept back part of the money for himself, but brought the rest and put it at the apostles’ feet.
Then Peter said, Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? Didn’t it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn’t the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied just to human beings but to God. When Ananias heard this, he fell down and died. And great fear seized all who heard what had happened. Then some young men came forward, wrapped up his body, and carried him out and buried him.
This sounds like Peter would have said:
If you lie to me
you lie to God and the Holy Spirit!
Anania and Saphira lied to the apostles. The apostles are “not just human beings” but God. And before the apostles were compared to the Holy Spirit.
This reveals a absurd view of God,a God you can lie at “you have lied … to God”.
read how Sapphira was killed:
“About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?” “Yes,” she said, “that is the price.” Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also. At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband.
Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.” ( Acts 5:1-11 )
Peter a cynical man acting and judging as here were God
Peter knew what happened to the man Anania. He gave Ananias wife Sapphira a question he knew the answer of, a retoric question just to try her.
Sapphira loved and defended her man.
. Peter for sure knew that Sapphira loving her man would give the same answer and the truth. And such a cynic man was to become the cornerstone of the church.
This story is told in the Youtube “The grim tale of Anania and YYSapphira”.
It is not strange the church with such a example, later started the Inquisition. Acts 5:1-11 were written by Luke maybe to open the door for the Churchmen to torture and murder tousands of humans not agreeing with he dogmas of the church.
I wrote about the dark history of the Catholic and protestant church in http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/witch-hunt-in-europe/
and about he Catholic murder of Giordano Bruno in
Would Jesus have done the same as the apostles?
remembering how he did with the prostitute, I presume not. Nowere is written that a lie is a mortal sin and he would never had compared the disciples to God as he himself were very clear about not being God himself and God being his father.
The Church abuse of power
John Wycliffe and William Tyndale were burned to death because the translated the Bible to English so everyone could read it. They did it thanks to these decrees:
Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”
Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned…”
( Source: www.huffingtonpost.com ) The reason tho this is explained in www.justforcatholics.org
The Church ignored Moses law “You shall not kill” and Jesus teaching about “Love your enemie” and felt got support with the (maybe invented) story about Anania and Sapphira.
A jehovah witness said that Anania and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit They deserved therefore to die. They maybe supported their thinking with Matthew 12:31 ): ” And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be”
For me the story of Anania and Sapphira can not be true. A “love your enemie” God and Jesus would not have allowed such a punishment.
However it is true or not, Luke created his Anania and Sapphira story with Matthew 12:31 to give the Church the right to act like the old “eye for an eye” God with dissidents and Bible translator like Wycliffe and Tyndale.
Btw, how do you lie to the Holy Spirit or to God? is God not omnipotent and all knowing? Luke forgot about this in his story.
“The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”
For me, Peter showed in this sentence, a cold cynism to a loving woman and greatly abused his power with a couple who were caught in a simple and stupid lie.
Peter maybe deserves to be part of the top 10 abuses of Power listed by Times.
Peter himself wrote thereafter in 1Peter 3:9 “Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult. On the contrary, repay evil with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing.” . he ignored and never mentioned here what he did in the story of Anania and Sapphira.
Peter were to become a “cornerstone of the church”. A church that maybe thanks to his power abuse, later abused its power for centuries, condemning hundreds of good people to death like e.g. Giordano Bruno, the marthyr of Science who dared to think, sapere aude, in his own way.
That the catholic church does not read this ugly part of the New testament in its ordo missae is intresting,
like you never hear texts being read about lapidation of rebellious sons and adulterous daughters in ( deuteronomium 21:18 and deut 22:21 ), texts that probably the Catholic Church can not motivate nor explain.