Fighting homophobia in Italy

I knew tonight  at TGR Piemonte (News from Piemonte the Torino region 

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/TGR/basic/PublishingBlock-8cbbd8fc-3365-4785-a7ec-950b73541553.html

that the “homosexual meetings are suspended”.

I looked around to understand more about this.

It seems to handle about the suspension of the faith and mariage lessons for gays  led by Gianluca Carrega in Torino.

The motivation for this suspension is to make a “adeguato discernimento”. More is explained in http://www.diocesi.torino.it/site/pastorale-degli-omosessuali-intervento-di-mons-nosiglia/ 

a article that links to Amoris letitiae written by the pope Francesco http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/apost_exhortations/documents/papa-francesco_esortazione-ap_20160319_amoris-laetitia.html

About the faith lessons led by Gianluca Carrega English Corriere.it at http://torino.corriere.it/politica/18_febbraio_03/lezioni-fedelta-gay-cattedra-diocesi-torino-bf074e5a-08da-11e8-8b93-b872f63dbb4d.shtml says this (my English translation from Italian):

“Faith lessons for gays led by the  Diocese of Turin.

Don Gianluca Carrega is the only priest in Italy to follow the homosexuals who have decided to have a civil mariage after the Italian Cirinnà law.

“Gay couples should  get out of hiding, be faithful to each other and love each other.”

The meaning of the work that Fr Gianluca Carrega has been carrying out in Turin for five years can be summarized in these terms.

Don Gialuca Carrega  is the only priest in Italy appointed by the diocese to follow the homosexual and lesbian people who, after the entry into force of the (civil mariage) Cirinnà law, have the right to have a civil mariage. For them, the Catholic Church does not have mariage preparation courses, as  other Churches in the Christian sphere have, as (the CAtholic Church) do not recognize the same sacredness to homosexual unions.

However, “we are interested – explains Fr Carrega – to continue their journey of faith and wonder what it means to share their lives in the light of the Gospel”. The principles that underlie a life of two homosexuals are the same as those of heterosexual couples, starting from fidelity, as a pact of mutual respect. No guilt, indeed “it is important that they have the awareness and the courage to make it explicit, starting from the their own family”.

The main problem for the homosexuals are the parents. The article continues:

“The parents

Punto dolens, in fact, are often parents. “It is not enough – the priest points out – to be believers to understand and welcome gay children. They too need to be accompanied on a path that makes them understand that they as parents are not facing a tragedy. During our meetings some agree to bring their testimony to other parents who are in a similar situation and who have difficulty accepting it ».  No guilt, therefore, and no theory of homosexuality or of lesbianism as a disease. I am not – Don Carrega is keen to point out – having  courses to redeem, in order to recover to a supposedly healthy normality, those who would have moved away from it. On the other hand, on this front the Catholic Church, which does not recognize civil unions as a true marriage, is not zero year. “Since 2005,” explained Don Caregga, “there was a focus on homosexual persons in the Pastoral Care for the Family, for which Fr Valer Danna was responsible. The only novelty is that for five years an ad hoc pastoral has been created. Loyalty is not the only aspect we face. Others concern relationships with others, within the family and in society. We care that everyone is aware of what is faith and that everyone does not lose faith “. Two spiritual retreats per year help in this sense, like the one scheduled for February 24th and 25th in an institute of nuns. A path, that of faith, which needs to be continually nourished and that is why “the church must welcome, listen, accompany”. t the question “After the courses these couples remain in the church, continue to attend their activities?  Gian-Luca answers: “Exactly like all other heterosexual couples. Proportionally, the percentage is equal “.

( Source in Italian at http://torino.corriere.it/politica/18_febbraio_03/lezioni-fedelta-gay-cattedra-diocesi-torino-bf074e5a-08da-11e8-8b93-b872f63dbb4d.shtml ) 

GianLuca Carrega has written several religious books.  The editor site editrice.effata.it says this about Gian-Luca Carrega:

“He was born in Turin in 1972. After classic high school (studying Greek and Latin) he studied  litterature and giudaic-ellenistic philology.
2000 he is priest at diocesi inTorino. After a few eyars in the Orbassano (church TO), he went to Rome to contiue his sacred scripture studies at Pontificio Istituto Biblico.
After 2006, he made a doctorate about the Gospels Siriac translations. he is now responsible  at pastorale della cultura dell’Arcidiocesi di Torino.”
  (  Italian source: https://editrice.effata.it/autore/gian-luca-carrega/ )

 

About the ban on gay men from entering the seminary, introduced by Ratzinger in 2005 

“The Church … cannot admit to the seminary … those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called ‘gay culture,” it read. 

But some catholics are against this: “The idea that gays cannot be good priests is stupid, demeaning, unjust, and contrary to the facts, I know many very good priests who are gay, and I suspect even more good priests I know are gay.’ saysThomas Reese, Jesuit priest.

( Source:  http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-january-10-2017-1.3928686/encore-vatican-expert-says-homophobia-in-catholic-church-due-in-part-to-high-numbers-of-gay-priests-1.4234160  )

Some would like to follow the  Bible deuteronomy 21:18-21 and similar texts about stoning: 

 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

19 Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Many Muslim fanatics have followed the Bible lapidation description strictly  with a homosexual or heterosexual men or women being in love with someone wihtout the permission of their parents.

How is it about Jesus “Love your enemie” ( matthew/5-44 ) and “throw the first stone who is without sin.” ( John/8-7 ) ? Are we not dealing with homophobic priests who tell us to love even our enemy but they themselves do something else in this case blowing oxygen on homophobia? ( https:// Matthew+23

I remember and love Jesus advice about the pharisees “obey everything they teach you, but don’t do as they do. After all, they say one thing and do something else. ” ( https:// Matthew+23 )