7. Possession of translated Bible = heresy

introduction

December 28. This is excerpt 7 from a page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019. It is important to know that the translation of the New testament written in Hebrew, Latin and Greek was prohibited by the catholic church. They wanted to have the sole right to the true Bible maybe to hide bad translations and erroneous dogmatic belief conclusions.

History

Catholic decrees

Decree of the Council of Toulouse (1229 C.E.): “We prohibit also that the laity should be permitted to have the books of the Old or New Testament; but we most strictly forbid their having any translation of these books.”

The jews may have wonder at this time if the Catholic Church was trying to steal their sacred texts for their own purposes.

Ruling of the Council of Tarragona of 1234 C.E.: “No one may possess the books of the Old and New Testaments in the Romance language, and if anyone possesses them he must turn them over to the local bishop within eight days after promulgation of this decree, so that they may be burned…”
( Source: http://www.justforcatholics.org  )

The Bible did not exist in other languages than Hebrew,  Latin and Greek.

John Wycliffe translated the Bible to English and was sentenced to death for this, 1384. 

Wycliffs handwritten  translated Bible circulated however illegally. But owner of  his translation were all accused of heresy and sentenced to death at the stake by burning.

William Tyndale born 1494 hated the Catholic Church banishment of the English Bible. he was also one of the few who understood Greek and Latin.  he also understood German. As England was Catholic and his life in danger, he fled to Germany.

In Germany there was a  Lutheran  German version of the New Testament available.

William made there in Germany a  new English translation of the Greek New Testament (NT) with  a language that everyone could understand. His NT  was printed in huge quantities in Antwerpen. As his NT fit  a small book it was easy for everyone to hold and also to smuggle to England.

“Studying the NT, William Tyndale came to denounce the practice of prayer to Saints. He understood that Man’s salvation from first to last depends on God alone. ” ( Source: Wiki )

William Tyndale was caught in Antwerpen, held in prison in Belgium and  sentenced 1535 to be burned to death in England. 

He finally was strangled to death while tied at the stake October 1536, and then his dead body was burned”.

15 years after his death the William Tyndale NT became legal because the King of England wanted to divorce but could do that only by becoming a Protestant.

The King James Bible is 90% William Tyndales translation.

See the story in this video:

Why

The Catholic church may have wanted to hide that

  • Jesus was a practicing Jew
  • Jesus never talked for a creation of a new religion
  • Parts of the NT were to remain hidden (Love your enemy”? to qallow the DCatholic church to kill)
  • Parts fo the NT were not historically correct (Some are fantasies written to support Catholic dogmas, especcially about the birth and youth of Jesus as I have talked about in previous posts)
  • parts of the NT were not correctly translated (like e.g. Greek “stauros” to “cross” instead of “pole” )

www.justforcatholics.org writes that

‘In early times, the Bible was read freely by the lay people, and the Fathers constantly encourage them to do so, although they also insist on the obscurity of the sacred text. No prohibitions were issued against the popular reading of the Bible. New dangers came during the Middle Ages. When the heresy of the Albigenses arose there was a danger from corrupt translations, and also from the fact that the heretics tried to make the faithful judge the Church by their own interpretation of the Bible. To meet these evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Tarragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required the bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of the Scripture, unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such readings was likely to prove beneficial.’

Read more  in https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bernard-starr/why-christians-were-denied-access-to-their-bible-for-1000-years_b_3303545.html 

I added this story to the top abuse of power list in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/04/16/abuse-of-power

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6. The difficult youth of Jesus.

 introduction

December 30.  Jesus is growing. He was not a normal boy and may have suffered during his childhood. This is excerpt 6 from  a  page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019.

This video is nice but Luke tells really a different story. Jesus is 12 year and is in the Temple, sitting among the teachers, listening to them, and asking them questions. ( Luke 2:46  ) Mary and Joseph are there and are anxious after having searched  for him.  He

“49  replied, ‘Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?'”
This is the only text describing a young Jesus in the Gospels. You find it in  Luke 2:49

Jesus is not like other children his age, playing games with other childrens. In the film above I am reminded about a boy with Asperger.

How were his first 12 years? Did they ridiculed  him like they did years later when he was an adult? (Matthew 9: 24 )

He was a special boy, born by a unknown father. He probably did not look like his father.
Neighboors maybe  talked bad about him and his mother while their childrens listened.

Deuteronomy 23:2 supported such a treatment with this text:

HEB:  לֹא־ יָבֹ֥א מַמְזֵ֖ר בִּקְהַ֣ל יְהוָ֑ה
NAS: No one of illegitimate birth shall enter the assembly of the LORD

Jesus was special, he was intelligent. He may have therefore been  a treath for other envious weak childrens in the small village of Nazareth, children looking for respect and power. Like he was as an adult. 

If bullyism existed, he was a typical victim of bullyism. I wrote about bullyism in one of my pages.  As I documented there.  Famous  Henry Thomas alias “ET-boy” and Jack Lloyd, child actor in Star Trek suffered bullyism. Why not also Jesus?

Jesus may have been quantum entangled with God and therefore talked with the knowledge of God.  But when he talked about childrens he talked like on who knew how it is to be a child and what children most of all need.

This is how Jesus talked when “people  brought babies to him” and “the  disciples scolded them“:

16 But Jesus called the children to him and said, ‘Let the little children come to me, and do not stop them; for it is to such as these that the kingdom of God belongs. 17 In truth I tell you, anyone who does not welcome the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it.'” (  Luke 18:15-17 )

He knew what it meant for a children to be

  • ridiculed as he maybe himself probably was ridiculed by other childrens
  • he knew how important it was to love our childrens.
  • he knew how important the “love your enemy and pardon” strategy was  as he himself had tested it
  • he knew how weak childrens can be as he himself has felt that weakness.

I think that this video from the mormon channel, gives an idea of Jesus relation with childrens.

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5. The silent years of Jesus

5. The unknown Jesus

December 28.  Jesus is growing. He was not a normal boy and may have suffered during his childhood. This is excerpt 6 from  a  page about Jesus I am working with and will publish in its final form after Easter 2019.

About  Jesus infancy, childhood and youth. The  silent years of Jesus.

About 12 year old Jesus who

“49  replied, ‘Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father’s house?'”

This is the only text describing a young Jesus in the Gospels. You din it in  Luke 2:49

Mark starts his Gospel with Jesus, maybe 30 years old,  being baptized by John.

Searching fro a picture in  the Old Testament

It looks like the gospel authors studied the old testament (OT) to get a picture of Jesus life. They  tried to draw a picture of the historical Jesus birth, childhood and youth, with inspiration  from the old books, like about the birthplace of Jesus, taken from Mika:

  • Mika 5:2 (“But you, O Bethlehem of Ephrathah,
        who are one of the little clans of Judah,
    from you shall come forth for me
        one who is to rule in Israel,
  • Salomos 7:4 (I was nursed with care in swaddling cloths. For no king has had a different beginning of existence;”).

jesus youth – a paraphrase of the life of Moses

They made the life of Jesus a paraphrase of the life of Moses who too was saved in Egypt and then similarly met his people on a mountain, Moses on Sion and Jesus outside Jerusalem. 

very little  is said about Jesus  infancy and childhood experiences. We read about Jesus being a  baby in the craddle. Beside the 12 year old boy in the synagogue story, from his birth until he were baptized there is a complete darkness.

Marks first writing about the historical Jesus was At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan.”  ( mark/1-9.htm ) “And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.” ( mark/1-11.htm )

Matthew (Levi according to Mark) and Luke never met Jesus and had great troubles figuring out about Jesus birth and childhood. Markus who was the first to write a Gospel about Jesus, didn’t give Matthew and Luke any help.

Despite the accurate Roman documentation tradition, Josephus is the only historian telling about a Jesus in the words “Jesus called Messiah”

Talmids only shared what Jesus teached. Find a answer about Jesus birth, childhood and youth in the old testament,  was a tricky issue to deal with. All agreed the mother was called Mary, a woman who lived in Nazareth. They knew Jesus was the “son of Mary”. But as i asked in a previous post. Who was the father?

Voices in the first two centuries told Mary was raped by a Roman soldier. This Roman soldier was given the name Pantera.

Matthew and Luke must have wondered. They did not like these bad talks.

A few have tried to fill the gap

I am not the only one who try to figure out how the life of the young Jesus may have been.

  1. one is the film “The Young Messiah”  a 2016 American biblical drama film directed by Cyrus Nowrasteh and co-written by Betsy Giffen Nowrasteh and Nowrasteh, based on the novel Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt by Anne Rice. See ww1.theyoungmessiah.com
  2. truthbook.com/jesus/jesus-teenage-years shares a story but gives no reliable sources. It tells about a happy youth with Jesus playing harp etc. because of Jesus teaching about children and his status, I believe that Jesus had a completely different kind of childhood.
  3.  Jonas Gardell is the one who has done the most serious  research about Jesus in his book. His arguments about a Mamzer Jesus is well grounded. I will come back to this in my coming posts.

 

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