15 Jesus and the prophets



At the catholic massMarch 17, we read about Jesus encounter with the Prophets Moses and Elia.



Luke about the encounter

Luke 9,28-36 says

28 Now about eight days after this had been said, he took with him Peter, John and James and went up the mountain to pray29 And it happened that, as he was praying, the aspect of his face was changed and his clothing became sparkling white. 30 And suddenly there were two men talking to him; they were Moses and Elijah 31 appearing in glory, and they were speaking of his passing which he was to accomplish in Jerusalem. 32 Peter and his companions were heavy with sleep, but they woke up and saw his glory and the two men standing with him. 33 As these were leaving him, Peter said to Jesus, ‘Master, it is wonderful for us to be here; so let us make three shelters, one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.’ He did not know what he was saying. 34 As he was saying this, a cloud came and covered them with shadow; and when they went into the cloud the disciples were afraid. 35 And a voice came from the cloud saying, ‘This is my Son, the Chosen One. Listen to him.’” 36 And after the voice had spoken, Jesus was found alone. The disciples kept silence and, at that time, told no one what they had seen.”


Jesus, God or the greatest prophet

Thias text reminds us that Jesus is not God but a great prophet, a prophet that is at the level of Moses.i would say that Jesus is the greatest prophet bwing  entangled with God. I I wrote about the entanglement in www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2019/02/10/12-is-jesus-god-20190210/#entangled

As Muslims recognize Jesus, “Isa ibn Maryam” the only prophet filled with special signs and the Holy Spirit and  able to do miracles, something that even Muhammed (PBUH) couldnt do.






Coffee liquor


This is a typical Italian liquor. The  recipe was given to us by Giovanna Benelli, Dovera, Cremona. 

Ingredients for a liquor with 20%  alcohol.

  • Espresso coffee 250 g
  • Italian espresso coffee machine (We used a Bialetti)
  • Sugar 900 gram
  • Alcool (we used 99% alcohol) 400 ml
  • Bottles for 2 liter
  • Procedure

  • Prepare espresso coffee with 250 gr coffee.
    You should get about 1.6 liter espresso coffee 
  • to the warm coffee add
    • 900 gram sugar
    • vanilla powder (about  1 gram)
  • Cool the coffee
    • measure the colume of coffee
    • add 400 ml  alcohol
  • Put in bottles
  • and let rest about 1 month
  • Serve ice cold

14. Jesus and Lucifer


I have written about the devil in a previous post. You find it at http://www.kinberg.net/wordpress/stellan/2018/04/24/iblis-whisperings/ 

Today at Catholic Mass we read about Jesus encounter with Lucifer in Luke 4,1-13.



Matthew and Luke about Jesus encounter


Matthew and Luke uses the same words but the story about the devil and Jesus  in Gerusalem differs. Matthew tells that Jesus was asked to trow himself down from the temple first and then  offered power over the worlds. Luke tells jesus was tested during 40 days.

Matthew 4:1-11 says:

1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit out into the desert to be put to the test by the devil.

2 He fasted for forty days and forty nights, after which he was hungry,

3 and the tester came and said to him, ‘If you are Son of God, tell these stones to turn into loaves.’

4 But he replied, ‘Scripture says: Human beings live not on bread alone but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’

5 The devil then took him to the holy city and set him on the parapet of the Temple.

6 ‘If you are Son of God,’ he said, ‘throw yourself down; for scripture says: He has given his angels orders about you, and they will carry you in their arms in case you trip over a stone.’

7 Jesus said to him, ‘Scripture also says: Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’

8 Next, taking him to a very high mountain, the devil showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendour.

9 And he said to him, ‘I will give you all these, if you fall at my feet and do me homage.’

10 Then Jesus replied, ‘Away with you, Satan! For scripture says: The Lord your God is the one to whom you must do homage, him alone you must serve.’

11 Then the devil left him, and suddenly angels appeared and looked after him.


Luke 4,1-13. text says:

“Filled with the Holy Spirit, Jesus left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the desert,

2 for forty days being put to the test by the devil. During that time he ate nothing and at the end he was hungry.

3 Then the devil said to him, ‘If you are Son of God, tell this stone to turn into a loaf.

4 But Jesus replied, ‘Scripture says: Human beings live not on bread alone.’

5 Then leading him to a height, the devil showed him in a moment of time all the kingdoms of the world

6 and said to him, ‘I will give you all this power and their splendour, for it has been handed over to me, for me to give it to anyone I choose.

7 Do homage, then, to me, and it shall all be yours.’

8 But Jesus answered him, ‘Scripture says: You must do homage to the Lord your God, him alone you must serve.’

9 Then he led him to Jerusalem and set him on the parapet of the Temple. ‘If you are Son of God,’ he said to him, ‘throw yourself down from here,

10 for scripture says: He has given his angels orders about you, to guard you, and again:

11 They will carry you in their arms in case you trip over a stone.’

12 But Jesus answered him, ‘Scripture says: Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’

13 Having exhausted every

way of putting him to the test, the devil left him, until the opportune moment.”


Lucifer act on you when you are weak

Jesus had hunger when Lucifer contacted him. he acted on Eve who did not have knowledge. So he acts on people afflicted by rage  inviting to revenge.


Lucifer uses  the sophist abilities

Lucifer uses the scripture in his motivation, as described by Luke, using Psalm 91:11 that says “he has given his angels orders about you to guard you wherever you go.”.



Lucifer convinces with knowledges. Like Eve did once, humans listen sometimes to the wisperings of the devil . Matthew and Luke tells how Jesus behaved with the devil. Jesus answered with wisdom. So should we do.




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